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From: Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
Cc: Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>,
	Julien Tinnes <jln@google.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@google.com>,
	Kostya Serebryany <kcc@google.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>,
	Robert Swiecki <swiecki@google.com>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@hack.frob.com>,
	syzkaller@googlegroups.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] wait/ptrace: always assume __WALL if the child is traced
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 15:51:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5628E9E7.4020500@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151020171754.GA29304@redhat.com>

On 10/20/2015 07:17 PM, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> creates the unreapable zombie if /sbin/init doesn't use __WALL.
> 
> This is not a kernel bug, at least in a sense that everything works as
> expected: debugger should reap a traced sub-thread before it can reap
> the leader, but without __WALL/__WCLONE do_wait() ignores sub-threads.
> 
> Unfortunately, it seems that /sbin/init in most (all?) distributions
> doesn't use it and we have to change the kernel to avoid the problem.
> 
> This patch just adds the "ptrace" check into eligible_child(). To some
> degree this matches the "tsk->ptrace" in exit_notify(), ->exit_signal
> is mostly ignored when the tracee reports to debugger.
> 
> This obviously means the user-visible change: __WCLONE and __WALL no
> longer have any meaning for debugger. And I can only hope that this
> won't break something.
> 
> We could make a more conservative change. Say, we can take __WCLONE
> into account, or !thread_group_leader(). But it would be nice to not
> complicate these historical/confusing checks.

For the record, I like this way of fixing the problem too.

It removes the need to ever use __WALL in userspace:
IIRC the only case where it was needed are debuggers.

Which in turn makes *all* underscored wait flags (__WCLONE, __WALL,
__WNOTHREAD) unnecessary for any sane application use.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-10-22 13:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-20 17:17 [PATCH 0/2] wait/ptrace: always assume __WALL if the child is traced Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-20 17:17 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-20 22:31   ` Andrew Morton
2015-10-21  3:27     ` Vasily Averin
2015-10-21 17:41     ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-21 19:47       ` Andrew Morton
2015-10-21 20:44         ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-21 19:59     ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-10-21 20:31       ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-10-21 21:47         ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-21 23:27           ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-10-25 15:54             ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-26 12:08               ` Pedro Alves
2015-10-28 16:11                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-28 15:43                   ` Pedro Alves
2015-10-28 19:02                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-22 13:51   ` Denys Vlasenko [this message]
2015-10-20 17:17 ` [PATCH 2/2] wait: allow sys_waitid() to use __WNOTHREAD/__WCLONE/__WALL Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-20 17:36 ` [PATCH 0/2] wait/ptrace: always assume __WALL if the child is traced Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-22 14:40 ` Pedro Alves
2015-10-25 15:42   ` Oleg Nesterov

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