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From: Sebastian Frias <sebastian_frias@sigmadesigns.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Marc Gonzalez <marc_gonzalez@sigmadesigns.com>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: m(un)map kmalloc buffers to userspace
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 17:48:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5669ACDF.4030900@sigmadesigns.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151210140631.GO19496@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 12/10/2015 03:06 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Thu 10-12-15 14:37:38, Sebastian Frias wrote:
>> On 12/10/2015 12:40 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>> On Wed 09-12-15 16:35:53, Sebastian Frias wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>> We've seen that drivers/media/pci/zoran/zoran_driver.c for example seems to
>>>> be doing as us kmalloc+remap_pfn_range,
>>>
>>> This driver is broken - I will post a patch.
>>
>> Ok, we'll be glad to see a good example, please keep us posted.
>>
>>>
>>>> is there any guarantee (or at least an advised heuristic) to determine
>>>> if a driver is "current" (ie: uses the latest APIs and works)?
>>>
>>> OK, it seems I was overly optimistic when directing you to existing
>>> drivers. Sorry about that I wasn't aware you could find such a terrible
>>> code there. Please refer to Linux Device Drivers book which should give
>>> you a much better lead (e.g. http://www.makelinux.net/ldd3/chp-15-sect-2)
>>>
>>
>> Thank you for the link.
>> The current code of our driver was has portions written following LDD3,
>> however, we it seems that LDD3 advice is not relevant anymore.
>> Indeed, it talks about VM_RESERVED, it talks about using "nopage" and it
>> says that remap_pfn_range cannot be used for pages from get_user_page (or
>> kmalloc).
>
> Heh, it seems that we are indeed outdated there as well. The memory
> management code doesn't really require pages to be reserved and it
> allows to use get_user_page(s) memory to be mapped to user ptes.
> remap_pfn_range will set all the appropriate flags to make sure MM code
> will not stumble over those pages and let's the driver to take care of
> the memory deallocation.

Ok, just for information, do you know since when it is possible to use 
remap_pfn_range on kmalloc/get_user_page memory?

>
>> It seems such assertions are valid on older kernels, because the code stops
>> working on 3.4+ if we use remap_pfn_range the same way than
>> drivers/media/pci/zoran/zoran_driver.c
>> However, kmalloc+remap_pfn_range does work on 4.1.13+
>
> As I've said nothing will guarantee that the kmalloc returned address
> will be page aligned so you might corrupt slab internal data structures.
> You might allocate a larger buffer via kmalloc and make sure it is
> aligned properly but I fail to see why should be kmalloc used in the
> first place as you need a memory in page size unnits anyway.
>

Ok, so let's say we stop using kmalloc in favor of __get_user_pages, do 
you see other things that would need to be done to be compliant with 
current practices?

For instance, drivers/media/pci/zoran/zoran_driver.c is doing:

    for (off = 0; off < fh->buffers.buffer_size; off += PAGE_SIZE)
       SetPageReserved(virt_to_page(mem + off));

on the memory allocated with kmalloc, but we are not doing any of that, 
yet it was working. Would the switch to __get_user_pages require the 
calls to SetPageReserved?

Thanks for your help.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-10 16:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-08 17:25 m(un)map kmalloc buffers to userspace Sebastian Frias
2015-12-09 13:55 ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-09 14:07   ` Marc Gonzalez
2015-12-09 14:32     ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-09 14:53       ` Sebastian Frias
2015-12-09 15:12         ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-09 15:35           ` Sebastian Frias
2015-12-10 11:40             ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-10 12:04               ` Richard Weinberger
2015-12-10 13:37               ` Sebastian Frias
2015-12-10 14:06                 ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-10 16:48                   ` Sebastian Frias [this message]
2015-12-11  9:42                     ` Michal Hocko

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