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From: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hpe.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>, <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Scott J Norton <scott.norton@hpe.com>,
	Douglas Hatch <doug.hatch@hpe.com>,
	Toshimitsu Kani <toshi.kani@hpe.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] percpu_stats: Simple per-cpu statistics count helper functions
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 14:52:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5706AC71.3080801@hpe.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160407160623.GF7822@mtj.duckdns.org>

On 04/07/2016 12:06 PM, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, Waiman.
>
> On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 11:58:13AM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>> We can certainly make it watertight. However, that will certainly require
>> adding performance overhead in the percpu stats update fast path which I am
>> not willing to pay.
> There are multiple options depending on the specific balance you want
> to hit.  Reset can be made very heavy (involving RCU sync operation)
> to make hot path overhead minimal, local locking or atomic ops can
> also be used which while more expensive than this_cpu_*() ops still
> avoids cacheline bouncing.
>
>> The purpose of this stat counters reset functionality is to allow developers
>> to reset the stat counters, run certain workload and see how things are
>> going in the kernel when the workload completes assuming that those stat
>> counters are exposed via sysfs, debugfs, etc. The developers can certainly
>> check the stat counters after the reset to make sure that they are properly
>> reset. So I don't think we need an airtight way of doing it. If you have
>> scenarios in your mind that require airtight reset of the stat counters,
>> please let me know and I will see what I can do about it.
> No matter what, don't create something which can yield a completely
> surprising result once in a blue moon.  You might think it's okay
> because the likelihood is low but that just means that the resulting
> malfunctions will be that much more obscure and difficult to
> reproduce.
>
> Thanks.
>

As long as atomic reset is an optional feature that caller can choose at 
init time, I am OK to provide this functionality. I just don't want it 
to be the default because of the performance overhead.

Cheers,
Longman

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-07 19:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-02  3:09 [PATCH 0/3] ext4: Improve parallel I/O performance on NVDIMM Waiman Long
2016-04-02  3:09 ` [PATCH 1/3] ext4: Pass in DIO_SKIP_DIO_COUNT flag if inode_dio_begin() called Waiman Long
2016-04-02  3:09 ` [PATCH 2/3] percpu_stats: Simple per-cpu statistics count helper functions Waiman Long
2016-04-04  7:36   ` Nikolay Borisov
2016-04-04 17:11     ` Waiman Long
2016-04-04 19:09       ` Christoph Lameter
2016-04-06 21:53         ` Waiman Long
2016-04-04 16:02   ` Tejun Heo
2016-04-06 19:52     ` Waiman Long
2016-04-06 21:51     ` Waiman Long
2016-04-06 22:54       ` Tejun Heo
2016-04-07 15:58         ` Waiman Long
2016-04-07 16:06           ` Tejun Heo
2016-04-07 18:52             ` Waiman Long [this message]
2016-04-07 18:58               ` Tejun Heo
2016-04-07 20:37                 ` Waiman Long
2016-04-07 20:41                   ` Tejun Heo
2016-04-07 21:38                     ` Waiman Long
2016-04-02  3:09 ` [PATCH 3/3] ext4: Make cache hits/misses per-cpu counts Waiman Long

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