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From: "Wangnan (F)" <wangnan0@huawei.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	"Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo" <acme@redhat.com>
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <pi3orama@163.com>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@gmail.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] perf record: Add --dry-run option to check cmdline options
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 14:12:38 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5768DAD6.4020005@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160620162208.GA67352@ast-mbp.thefacebook.com>



On 2016/6/21 0:22, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 11:38:18AM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
>> Em Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 11:29:13AM +0800, Wangnan (F) escreveu:
>>> On 2016/6/17 0:48, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
>>>> Em Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 08:02:41AM +0000, Wang Nan escreveu:
>>>>> With '--dry-run', 'perf record' doesn't do reall recording. Combine with
>>>>> llvm.dump-obj option, --dry-run can be used to help compile BPF objects for
>>>>> embedded platform.
>>>> So these are nice and have value, but can we have a subcommand to do all
>>>> this with an expressive name, Something like:
>>>>    perf bpfcc foo.c -o foo
>>>> or shorter:
>>>>    perf bcc foo.c -o foo
>>>> Just like one would use gcc or some other compiler to generate something
>>>> for later use?
>>> I'll try it today. I thought a subcommand require a bigger feature,
>>> and wrapping clang is not big enough.
>> Not really, we may have as many as we like, given that they provide
>> something useful, like I think is the case here.
>>
>> Having to edit ~/.perfconfig, create a new section, a variable in it
>> with a boolean value (at first, just reading the changeset comment, I
>> thought I had to provide a directory where to store the objects
>> "dumped"), to then use a tool to record a .c event, but not recording
>> (use dry-run, which is useful to test the command line, etc), to then
>> get, on the current directory, the end result looked to me a convoluted
>> way to ask perf to compile the given .c file into a .o for later use.
>>
>> Doing:
>>
>> 	perf bcc -c foo.c
>>
>> Looks so much simpler and similar to an existing compile source code
>> into object file workflow (gcc's, any C compiler) that I think it would
>> fit in the workflow being discussed really nicely.
> I'm hopeful that eventually we'll be able merge iovisor/bcc project
> with perf, so would be good to reserve 'perf bcc' command for that
> future use. Also picking a different name for compiling would be less
> confusing to users who already familiar with bcc. Instead we can use:
> perf bpfcc foo.c -o foo.o
> perf cc foo.c
> perf compile foo.c
>

I think finally we should make perf independent with LLVM runtime.
I suggest 'perf bpf' subcommand to deal with all BPF related things,
include compiling, configuration and potential cache.

Thank you.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-06-21  6:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-16  8:02 [PATCH 0/2] perf bpf: Add helper to support generate BPF object Wang Nan
2016-06-16  8:02 ` [PATCH 1/2] perf llvm: Allow dump llvm output object file using llvm.dump-obj Wang Nan
2016-06-22  7:42   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Wang Nan
2016-06-16  8:02 ` [PATCH 2/2] perf record: Add --dry-run option to check cmdline options Wang Nan
2016-06-16 16:48   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2016-06-16 16:50     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2016-06-20  3:29     ` Wangnan (F)
2016-06-20 14:38       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2016-06-20 16:22         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-06-20 18:13           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2016-06-20 18:16             ` David Ahern
2016-06-20 18:52               ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2016-06-21  2:02             ` Namhyung Kim
2016-06-21  2:49               ` David Ahern
2016-06-21  6:12           ` Wangnan (F) [this message]
2016-06-21 16:11             ` perf cc/perf bpf was: " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2016-06-21  1:57         ` Wangnan (F)
2016-06-22  7:43   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Wang Nan

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