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From: "Durrant, Paul" <pdurrant@amazon.com>
To: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	"Juergen Gross" <jgross@suse.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	"Boris Ostrovsky" <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
Subject: RE: [Xen-devel] [PATCH 2/4] xenbus: limit when state is forced to closed
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 17:23:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5851d5c9424d4df088af96b24dca1906@EX13D32EUC003.ant.amazon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191209171757.GC980@Air-de-Roger>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Pau Monné <roger.pau@citrix.com>
> Sent: 09 December 2019 17:18
> To: Durrant, Paul <pdurrant@amazon.com>
> Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org; Juergen
> Gross <jgross@suse.com>; Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>;
> Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
> Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH 2/4] xenbus: limit when state is forced to
> closed
> 
> On Mon, Dec 09, 2019 at 04:26:15PM +0000, Durrant, Paul wrote:
> > > > If you want unbind to actually do a proper unplug then that's extra
> work
> > > and not really something I want to tackle (and re-bind would still
> need to
> > > be toolstack initiated as something would have to re-create the
> xenstore
> > > area).
> > >
> > > Why do you say the xenstore area would need to be recreated?
> > >
> > > Setting state to closed shouldn't cause any cleanup of the xenstore
> > > area, as that should already happen for example when using pvgrub
> > > since in that case grub itself disconnects and already causes a
> > > transition to closed and a re-attachment afterwards by the guest
> > > kernel.
> > >
> >
> > For some reason, when I originally tested, the xenstore area
> disappeared. I checked again and it did not this time. I just ended up
> with a frontend stuck in state 5 (because it is the system disk and won't
> go offline) trying to talk to a non-existent backend. Upon re-bind the
> backend goes into state 5 (because it sees the 5 in the frontend) and
> leaves the guest wedged.
> 
> Likely blkfront should go back to init state, but anyway, that's not
> something that needs fixing as part of this series.
> 

Ok, cool.

I am wondering though whether we ought to suppress bind/unbind for drivers that don't whitelist themselves (through the new xenbus_driver flag that I'll add). It's somewhat misleading that the nodes are there but don't necessarily work.

  Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-09 17:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-05 14:01 [PATCH 0/4] xen-blkback: support live update Paul Durrant
2019-12-05 14:01 ` [PATCH 1/4] xenbus: move xenbus_dev_shutdown() into frontend code Paul Durrant
2019-12-09 11:33   ` Jürgen Groß
2019-12-09 11:55     ` Durrant, Paul
2019-12-09 11:57       ` Jürgen Groß
2019-12-05 14:01 ` [PATCH 2/4] xenbus: limit when state is forced to closed Paul Durrant
2019-12-09 11:39   ` [Xen-devel] " Roger Pau Monné
2019-12-09 11:55     ` Jürgen Groß
2019-12-09 12:03       ` Durrant, Paul
2019-12-09 12:08         ` Jürgen Groß
2019-12-09 12:19           ` Durrant, Paul
2019-12-09 13:38             ` Jürgen Groß
2019-12-09 14:06               ` Durrant, Paul
2019-12-09 14:09                 ` Jürgen Groß
2019-12-09 14:23                   ` Durrant, Paul
2019-12-09 14:41                     ` Jürgen Groß
2019-12-09 14:43                       ` Durrant, Paul
2019-12-09 12:01     ` Durrant, Paul
2019-12-09 12:25       ` Roger Pau Monné
2019-12-09 12:40         ` Durrant, Paul
2019-12-09 14:28           ` Roger Pau Monné
2019-12-09 14:41             ` Durrant, Paul
2019-12-09 15:13               ` Roger Pau Monné
2019-12-09 16:26                 ` Durrant, Paul
2019-12-09 17:17                   ` Roger Pau Monné
2019-12-09 17:23                     ` Durrant, Paul [this message]
2019-12-05 14:01 ` [PATCH 3/4] xen/interface: don't discard pending work in FRONT/BACK_RING_ATTACH Paul Durrant
2019-12-09 11:41   ` [Xen-devel] " Roger Pau Monné
2019-12-09 11:52     ` Jürgen Groß
2019-12-09 12:50       ` Durrant, Paul
2019-12-09 13:55   ` Jürgen Groß
2019-12-09 16:38     ` Durrant, Paul
2019-12-10 11:42       ` Jürgen Groß
2019-12-05 14:01 ` [PATCH 4/4] xen-blkback: support dynamic unbind/bind Paul Durrant
2019-12-09 12:17   ` Roger Pau Monné
2019-12-09 12:24     ` Durrant, Paul
2019-12-09 13:57   ` Jürgen Groß
2019-12-09 14:01     ` Durrant, Paul

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