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From: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	"open list:X86 ARCHITECTURE (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)" 
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"maintainer:X86 ARCHITECTURE (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)"
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Subject: Re: KVM's support for non default APIC base
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2021 12:20:02 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <599d7449ca94a7ef31b406330bd2bb0ad1870f2b.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <564fd4461c73a4ec08d68e2364401db981ecba3a.camel@redhat.com>

On Thu, 2021-07-22 at 12:12 +0300, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> On Mon, 2021-07-19 at 18:49 +0000, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 18, 2021, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> > > I am more inclined to fix this by just tracking if we hold the srcu
> > > lock on each VCPU manually, just as we track the srcu index anyway,
> > > and then kvm_request_apicv_update can use this to drop the srcu
> > > lock when needed.
> > 
> > The entire approach of dynamically adding/removing the memslot seems doomed to
> > failure, and is likely responsible for the performance issues with AVIC, e.g. a
> > single vCPU temporarily inhibiting AVIC will zap all SPTEs _twice_; on disable
> > and again on re-enable.
> > 
> > Rather than pile on more gunk, what about special casing the APIC access page
> > memslot in try_async_pf()?  E.g. zap the GFN in avic_update_access_page() when
> > disabling (and bounce through kvm_{inc,dec}_notifier_count()), and have the page
> > fault path skip directly to MMIO emulation without caching the MMIO info.  It'd
> > also give us a good excuse to rename try_async_pf() :-)
> > 
> > If lack of MMIO caching is a performance problem, an alternative solution would
> > be to allow caching but add a helper to zap the MMIO SPTE and request all vCPUs to
> > clear their cache.
> > 
> > It's all a bit gross, especially hijacking the mmu_notifier path, but IMO it'd be
> > less awful than the current memslot+SRCU mess
> 
> Hi Sean, Paolo and everyone else:
> 
> I am exploring the approach that you proposed and I noticed that we have very inconsistient
> code that handles the APIC base relocation for in-kernel local apic.
> I do know that APIC base relocation is not supported, and I don't have anything against
> this as long as VMs don't use that feature, but I do want this to be consistent.
> 
> I did a study of the code that is involved in this mess and I would like to hear your opinion:
> 
> There are basically 3 modes of operation of in kernel local apic:
> 
> Regular unaccelerated local apic:
> 
> -> APIC MMIO base address is stored at 'apic->base_address', and updated in 
>    kvm_lapic_set_base which is called from  msr write of 'MSR_IA32_APICBASE'
>    (both by SVM and VMX).
>    The value is even migrated.
> 
> -> APIC mmio read/write is done from MMU, when we access MMIO page:
> 	vcpu_mmio_write always calls apic_mmio_write which checks if the write is in 
> 	apic->base_address page and if so forwards the write local apic with offset
> 	in this page.
> 
> -> APIC MMIO area has to be MMIO for 'apic_mmio_write' to be called,
>    thus must contain no guest memslots.
>    If the guest relocates the APIC base somewhere where we have a memslot, 
>    memslot will take priority, while on real hardware, LAPIC is likely to
>    take priority.
> 
> APICv:
> 
> -> The default apic MMIO base (0xfee00000) is covered by a dummy page which is
>    allocated from qemu's process  using __x86_set_memory_region.
>    
>    This is done once in alloc_apic_access_page which is called on vcpu creation,
>    (but only once when the memslot is not yet enabled)
> 
> -> to avoid pinning this page into qemu's memory, reference to it
>    is dropped in alloc_apic_access_page.
>    (see commit c24ae0dcd3e8695efa43e71704d1fc4bc7e29e9b)
> 
> -> kvm_arch_mmu_notifier_invalidate_range -> checks if we invalidate GPA 0xfee00000 
>    and if so, raises KVM_REQ_APIC_PAGE_RELOAD request.
> 
> -> kvm_vcpu_reload_apic_access_page handles the KVM_REQ_APIC_PAGE_RELOAD request by calling
>    kvm_x86_ops.set_apic_access_page_addr which is only implemented on VMX
>    (vmx_set_apic_access_page_addr)
> 
> -> vmx_set_apic_access_page_addr does gfn_to_page on 0xfee00000 GPA,
>    and if the result is valid, writes the physical address of this page to APIC_ACCESS_ADDR vmcs field.
> 
>    (This is a major difference from the AVIC - AVIC's avic_vapic_bar is *GPA*, while APIC_ACCESS_ADDR
>    is host physical address which the hypervisor is supposed to map at APIC MMIO GPA using EPT)
> 
>    Note that if we have an error here, we might end with invalid APIC_ACCESS_ADDR field.
> 
> -> writes to the  HPA of that special page (which has GPA of 0xfee00000, and mapped via EPT) go to
>    APICv or cause special VM exits: (EXIT_REASON_APIC_ACCESS, EXIT_REASON_APIC_WRITE)
> 
>    * EXIT_REASON_APIC_ACCESS (which is used for older limited 'flexpriotiy' mode which only emulates TPR practically) 
>      actually emulates the instruction to know the written value,
>      but we have a special case in vcpu_is_mmio_gpa which makes the emulation treat the access to the default
>      apic base as MMIO.
>    
>    * EXIT_REASON_APIC_WRITE is a trap VMexit which comes with full APICv, and since it also has offset
>      qualification and the value is already in the apic page, this info is just passed to kvm_lapic_reg_write
> 
> 
> -> If APIC base is relocated, the APICv isn't aware of it, and the writes to new APIC base,
>    (assuming that we have no memslots covering it) will go through standard APIC MMIO emulation,
>    and *might* create a mess.
> 
> AVIC:
> 
> -> The default apic MMIO base (0xfee00000) 
>    is also covered by a dummy page which is allocated from qemu's process using __x86_set_memory_region 
>    in avic_update_access_page which is called also on vcpu creation (also only once),
>    and from SVM's dynamic AVIC inhibition.
> 
> -> The reference to this page is not dropped thus there is no KVM_REQ_APIC_PAGE_RELOAD handler.
>    I think we should do the same we do for APICv here?
> 
> -> avic_vapic_bar is GPA and thus contains 0xfee00000 but writes to MSR_IA32_APICBASE do update it
>    (avic_update_vapic_bar which is called from MSR_IA32_APICBASE write in SVM code)
> 
>    thus if the guest relocates the APIC base to a writable memory page, actually AVIC would happen to work.
>    (opposite from the stock xAPIC handlilng, which only works when apic base is in MMIO area.)
> 
> -> writes to the GPA in avic_vapic_bar are first checked in NPT (but HPA written there ignored),
>    and then either go to AVIC or cause SVM_EXIT_AVIC_UNACCELERATED_ACCESS which has offset of the write
>    in the exit_info_1
>    (there is also SVM_EXIT_AVIC_INCOMPLETE_IPI which is called on some ICR writes)
> 
> 
> As far as I know the only good reason to relocate APIC base is to access it from the real mode
> which is not something that is done these days by modern BIOSes.
> 
> I vote to make it read only (#GP on MSR_IA32_APICBASE write when non default base is set and apic enabled) 
> and remove all remains of the support for variable APIC base.
> (we already have a warning when APIC base is set to non default value)
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 	Maxim Levitsky
> 
Ping.

Best regards,
	Maxim Levitsky


  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-02  9:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-13 14:20 [PATCH v2 0/8] My AVIC patch queue Maxim Levitsky
2021-07-13 14:20 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] KVM: SVM: svm_set_vintr don't warn if AVIC is active but is about to be deactivated Maxim Levitsky
2021-07-13 14:20 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] KVM: SVM: tweak warning about enabled AVIC on nested entry Maxim Levitsky
2021-07-13 14:20 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] KVM: SVM: use vmcb01 in svm_refresh_apicv_exec_ctrl Maxim Levitsky
2021-07-13 14:20 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] KVM: x86: APICv: drop immediate APICv disablement on current vCPU Maxim Levitsky
2021-07-13 14:20 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] KVM: x86: APICv: fix race in kvm_request_apicv_update on SVM Maxim Levitsky
2021-07-26 22:34   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-07-27 13:22     ` Maxim Levitsky
2021-07-13 14:20 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] KVM: SVM: add warning for mistmatch between AVIC state and AVIC access page state Maxim Levitsky
2021-07-13 14:20 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] KVM: SVM: call avic_vcpu_load/avic_vcpu_put when enabling/disabling AVIC Maxim Levitsky
2021-07-13 14:20 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] KVM: x86: hyper-v: Deactivate APICv only when AutoEOI feature is in use Maxim Levitsky
2021-07-18 12:13   ` Maxim Levitsky
2021-07-19  7:47     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-07-19  9:00       ` Maxim Levitsky
2021-07-19  9:23         ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-07-19  9:58           ` Maxim Levitsky
2021-07-19 18:49     ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-20  9:40       ` Maxim Levitsky
2021-07-22  9:12       ` KVM's support for non default APIC base Maxim Levitsky
2021-08-02  9:20         ` Maxim Levitsky [this message]
2021-08-06 21:55         ` Sean Christopherson
2021-08-09  9:40           ` Maxim Levitsky
2021-08-09 15:57             ` Sean Christopherson
2021-08-09 16:47             ` Jim Mattson
2021-08-10 20:42               ` Maxim Levitsky
2021-07-22 17:35       ` [PATCH v2 8/8] KVM: x86: hyper-v: Deactivate APICv only when AutoEOI feature is in use Maxim Levitsky
2021-07-22 19:06         ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-27 13:05           ` Maxim Levitsky
2021-07-27 17:48             ` Ben Gardon
2021-07-27 18:17               ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-29 14:10                 ` Maxim Levitsky
2021-07-26 17:24 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] My AVIC patch queue Paolo Bonzini

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