From: Peter Lafreniere <peter@n8pjl.ca>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: "Elliott, Robert (Servers)" <elliott@hpe.com>,
"Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
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"ardb@kernel.org" <ardb@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 10/24] crypto: x86/poly - limit FPU preemption
Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2022 14:03:31 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5TnEjVPNm7Eyw-GH7C0LeJJvgRSpOLb2NUshnG407s3TGTXL1lq4RpsoAMTpVGKWk7tVxDI5f2G9aH6lDbATR6QqXXkE7q54o7TUzO91ibI=@n8pjl.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y47El6TRitHm7Xz9@gondor.apana.org.au>
> > > BTW, just a minor nit but you can delete the cond_resched() call
> > > because kernel_fpu_end()/preempt_enable() will do it anyway.
> >
> > That happens under
> > CONFIG_PREEMPTION=y
> > (from include/Linux/preempt.h and arch/x86/include/asm/preempt.h)
> >
> > Is calling cond_resched() still helpful if that is not the configuration?
>
>
> Perhaps, but then again perhaps if preemption is off, maybe we
> shouldn't even bother with the 4K split. Were the initial
> warnings with or without preemption?
>
> Personally I don't really care since I always use preemption.
>
> The PREEMPT Kconfigs do provide a bit of nuance with the split
> between PREEMPT_NONE vs. PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY. But perhaps that is
> just overkill for our situation.
I was thinking about this a few days ago, and my 2¢ is that it's
probably best to not preempt the kernel in the middle of a crypto
operation under PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY. We're already not preempting during
these operations, and there haven't been complaints of excessive latency
because of these crypto operations.
If we skip the kernel_fpu_{begin,end} pair when not under
CONFIG_PREEMPT, we'll save a significant cycle count that is wasted
currently. See Elliot Robert's numbers on conditional begin/end in sha
to see the benefits of not saving/restoring unnecessarily: "10% of the
CPU cycles spent making the [kernel_fpu_{begin,end}] calls".
> I'll leave it to you to decide :)
One extra thought: commit 827ee47: "crypto: x86 - add some helper macros
for ECB and CBC modes" makes a mention of fpu save/restore being done
lazily. I don't know the details, so would that change this discussion?
Thanks for listening,
Peter Lafreniere <peter@n8pjl.ca>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-12-06 14:03 UTC|newest]
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2022-10-06 22:31 [RFC PATCH 0/7] crypto: x86 - fix RCU stalls Robert Elliott
2022-10-06 22:31 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] rcu: correct CONFIG_EXT_RCU_CPU_STALL_TIMEOUT descriptions Robert Elliott
2022-10-06 22:31 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] crypto: x86/sha - limit FPU preemption Robert Elliott
2022-10-06 22:31 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] crypto: x86/crc " Robert Elliott
2022-10-06 22:31 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] crypto: x86/sm3 " Robert Elliott
2022-10-06 22:31 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] crypto: x86/ghash - restructure FPU context saving Robert Elliott
2022-10-06 22:31 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] crypto: x86/ghash - limit FPU preemption Robert Elliott
2022-10-06 22:31 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] crypto: x86 - use common macro for FPU limit Robert Elliott
2022-10-12 21:59 ` [PATCH v2 00/19] crypto: x86 - fix RCU stalls Robert Elliott
2022-10-12 21:59 ` [PATCH v2 01/19] crypto: tcrypt - test crc32 Robert Elliott
2022-10-12 21:59 ` [PATCH v2 02/19] crypto: tcrypt - test nhpoly1305 Robert Elliott
2022-10-12 21:59 ` [PATCH v2 03/19] crypto: tcrypt - reschedule during cycles speed tests Robert Elliott
2022-10-12 21:59 ` [PATCH v2 04/19] crypto: x86/sha - limit FPU preemption Robert Elliott
2022-10-13 0:41 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-10-13 21:50 ` Elliott, Robert (Servers)
2022-10-14 11:01 ` David Laight
2022-10-13 5:57 ` Eric Biggers
2022-10-13 6:04 ` Herbert Xu
2022-10-13 6:08 ` Eric Biggers
2022-10-13 7:50 ` Herbert Xu
2022-10-13 22:41 ` :Re: " Elliott, Robert (Servers)
2022-10-12 21:59 ` [PATCH v2 05/19] crypto: x86/crc " Robert Elliott
2022-10-13 2:00 ` Herbert Xu
2022-10-13 22:34 ` Elliott, Robert (Servers)
2022-10-14 4:02 ` David Laight
2022-10-24 2:03 ` kernel test robot
2022-10-12 21:59 ` [PATCH v2 06/19] crypto: x86/sm3 " Robert Elliott
2022-10-12 21:59 ` [PATCH v2 07/19] crypto: x86/ghash - restructure FPU context saving Robert Elliott
2022-10-12 21:59 ` [PATCH v2 08/19] crypto: x86/ghash - limit FPU preemption Robert Elliott
2022-10-13 6:03 ` Eric Biggers
2022-10-13 22:52 ` Elliott, Robert (Servers)
2022-10-12 21:59 ` [PATCH v2 09/19] crypto: x86 - use common macro for FPU limit Robert Elliott
2022-10-13 0:35 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-10-13 21:48 ` Elliott, Robert (Servers)
2022-10-14 1:26 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-10-18 0:06 ` Elliott, Robert (Servers)
2022-10-12 21:59 ` [PATCH v2 10/19] crypto: x86/sha1, sha256 - load based on CPU features Robert Elliott
2022-10-12 21:59 ` [PATCH v2 11/19] crypto: x86/crc " Robert Elliott
2022-10-12 21:59 ` [PATCH v2 12/19] crypto: x86/sm3 " Robert Elliott
2022-10-12 21:59 ` [PATCH v2 13/19] crypto: x86/ghash " Robert Elliott
2022-10-12 21:59 ` [PATCH v2 14/19] crypto: x86 " Robert Elliott
2022-10-14 14:26 ` Elliott, Robert (Servers)
2022-10-12 21:59 ` [PATCH v2 15/19] crypto: x86 - add pr_fmt to all modules Robert Elliott
2022-10-12 21:59 ` [PATCH v2 16/19] crypto: x86 - print CPU optimized loaded messages Robert Elliott
2022-10-13 0:40 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-10-13 13:47 ` kernel test robot
2022-10-13 13:48 ` kernel test robot
2022-10-12 21:59 ` [PATCH v2 17/19] crypto: x86 - standardize suboptimal prints Robert Elliott
2022-10-13 0:38 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-10-12 21:59 ` [PATCH v2 18/19] crypto: x86 - standardize not loaded prints Robert Elliott
2022-10-13 0:42 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-10-13 22:20 ` Elliott, Robert (Servers)
2022-11-10 22:06 ` Elliott, Robert (Servers)
2022-10-12 21:59 ` [PATCH v2 19/19] crypto: x86/sha - register only the best function Robert Elliott
2022-10-13 6:07 ` Eric Biggers
2022-10-13 7:52 ` Herbert Xu
2022-10-13 22:59 ` Elliott, Robert (Servers)
2022-10-14 8:22 ` Herbert Xu
2022-11-01 21:34 ` [PATCH v2 00/19] crypto: x86 - fix RCU stalls Elliott, Robert (Servers)
2022-11-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v3 00/17] crypt: " Robert Elliott
2022-11-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v3 01/17] crypto: tcrypt - test crc32 Robert Elliott
2022-11-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v3 02/17] crypto: tcrypt - test nhpoly1305 Robert Elliott
2022-11-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v3 03/17] crypto: tcrypt - reschedule during cycles speed tests Robert Elliott
2022-11-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v3 04/17] crypto: x86/sha - limit FPU preemption Robert Elliott
2022-11-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v3 05/17] crypto: x86/crc " Robert Elliott
2022-11-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v3 06/17] crypto: x86/sm3 " Robert Elliott
2022-11-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v3 07/17] crypto: x86/ghash - use u8 rather than char Robert Elliott
2022-11-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v3 08/17] crypto: x86/ghash - restructure FPU context saving Robert Elliott
2022-11-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v3 09/17] crypto: x86/ghash - limit FPU preemption Robert Elliott
2022-11-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v3 10/17] crypto: x86/*poly* " Robert Elliott
2022-11-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v3 11/17] crypto: x86/sha - register all variations Robert Elliott
2022-11-03 9:26 ` kernel test robot
2022-11-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v3 12/17] crypto: x86/sha - minimize time in FPU context Robert Elliott
2022-11-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v3 13/17] crypto: x86/sha1, sha256 - load based on CPU features Robert Elliott
2022-11-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v3 14/17] crypto: x86/crc " Robert Elliott
2022-11-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v3 15/17] crypto: x86/sm3 " Robert Elliott
2022-11-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v3 16/17] crypto: x86/ghash,polyval " Robert Elliott
2022-11-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v3 17/17] crypto: x86/nhpoly1305, poly1305 " Robert Elliott
2022-11-16 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 00/24] crypto: fix RCU stalls Robert Elliott
2022-11-16 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 01/24] crypto: tcrypt - test crc32 Robert Elliott
2022-11-16 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 02/24] crypto: tcrypt - test nhpoly1305 Robert Elliott
2022-11-16 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 03/24] crypto: tcrypt - reschedule during cycles speed tests Robert Elliott
2022-11-16 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 04/24] crypto: x86/sha - limit FPU preemption Robert Elliott
2022-11-16 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 05/24] crypto: x86/crc " Robert Elliott
2022-11-16 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 06/24] crypto: x86/sm3 " Robert Elliott
2022-11-16 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 07/24] crypto: x86/ghash - use u8 rather than char Robert Elliott
2022-11-16 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 08/24] crypto: x86/ghash - restructure FPU context saving Robert Elliott
2022-11-16 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 09/24] crypto: x86/ghash - limit FPU preemption Robert Elliott
2022-11-16 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 10/24] crypto: x86/poly " Robert Elliott
2022-11-16 11:13 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-22 5:06 ` Elliott, Robert (Servers)
2022-11-22 9:07 ` David Laight
2022-11-25 8:40 ` Herbert Xu
2022-11-25 8:59 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-11-25 9:03 ` Herbert Xu
2022-11-28 16:57 ` Elliott, Robert (Servers)
2022-11-28 18:48 ` Elliott, Robert (Servers)
2022-12-02 6:21 ` Elliott, Robert (Servers)
2022-12-02 9:25 ` Herbert Xu
2022-12-02 16:15 ` Elliott, Robert (Servers)
2022-12-06 4:27 ` Herbert Xu
2022-12-06 14:03 ` Peter Lafreniere [this message]
2022-12-06 14:44 ` David Laight
2022-12-06 23:06 ` Peter Lafreniere
2022-12-10 0:34 ` Elliott, Robert (Servers)
2022-12-16 22:12 ` Elliott, Robert (Servers)
2022-11-16 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 11/24] crypto: x86/aegis " Robert Elliott
2022-11-16 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 12/24] crypto: x86/sha - register all variations Robert Elliott
2022-11-16 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 13/24] crypto: x86/sha - minimize time in FPU context Robert Elliott
2022-11-16 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 14/24] crypto: x86/sha - load based on CPU features Robert Elliott
2022-11-16 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 15/24] crypto: x86/crc " Robert Elliott
2022-11-16 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 16/24] crypto: x86/sm3 " Robert Elliott
2022-11-16 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 17/24] crypto: x86/poly " Robert Elliott
2022-11-16 11:19 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-16 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 18/24] crypto: x86/ghash " Robert Elliott
2022-11-16 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 19/24] crypto: x86/aesni - avoid type conversions Robert Elliott
2022-11-16 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 20/24] crypto: x86/ciphers - load based on CPU features Robert Elliott
2022-11-16 11:30 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-16 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 21/24] crypto: x86 - report used CPU features via module parameters Robert Elliott
2022-11-16 11:26 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-16 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 22/24] crypto: x86 - report missing " Robert Elliott
2022-11-16 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 23/24] crypto: x86 - report suboptimal CPUs " Robert Elliott
2022-11-16 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 24/24] crypto: x86 - standarize module descriptions Robert Elliott
2022-11-17 3:58 ` [PATCH v4 00/24] crypto: fix RCU stalls Herbert Xu
2022-11-17 15:13 ` Elliott, Robert (Servers)
2022-11-17 15:15 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
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