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From: "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>
To: "Hansen, Dave" <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"dave.hansen@linux.intel.com" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"bp@alien8.de" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Shutemov, Kirill" <kirill.shutemov@intel.com>,
	"daniel.sneddon@linux.intel.com" <daniel.sneddon@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "hpa@zytor.com" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com" 
	<pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Gomez Iglesias, Antonio" <antonio.gomez.iglesias@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/apic: Don't disable x2APIC if locked
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 10:08:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5aff93ec9cbd0cef1a75b265eddd889897b84bc6.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b6da06e8-6d79-4dd6-4a98-fbbc8b990d54@linux.intel.com>

On Wed, 2022-08-10 at 17:59 -0700, Daniel Sneddon wrote:
> On 8/10/22 17:38, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 10 2022 at 17:01, Daniel Sneddon wrote:
> > > On 8/10/22 16:44, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > > > On 8/10/22 16:38, Daniel Sneddon wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > config INTEL_TDX_GUEST
> > > > > >         bool "Intel TDX (Trust Domain Extensions) - Guest Support"
> > > > > >         depends on X86_64 && CPU_SUP_INTEL
> > > > > >         depends on X86_X2APIC
> > > > > So I got some more input.  SPR and newer will lock the APIC.  
> > > > 
> > > > Could you get a _little_ more clarity on this, please?  Exactly how and
> > > > when will it be locked?  What does the BIOS writer's guide say?  Will
> > > > there be an explicit x2APIC lock option?  Or, will it be implicitly
> > > > locked when SGX or TDX is enabled?
> > > 
> > > The BIOS doesn't explicitly lock the APIC.  The APIC will be locked if X2APIC
> > > mode is enabled when the BIOS does an MCHECK.  X2APIC mode will be enabled if
> > > SGX or TDX are enabled.  So when exactly does the BIOS do an MCHECK?  That I'll
> > > have to get clarification on.
> > 
> > Sorry, this is uncomprehensible word salad and none of this makes any
> > sense at all to me.
> > 
> > Can you please explain this in comprehensible sentences understandable
> > by mere mortals?
> 
> Basically if the BIOS is configured to enable SGX or TDX, it'll program the APIC
> to use x2APIC mode.  At some point it'll have to run MCHECK (which is just an
> MSR write).  When exactly the BIOS does this, I'm not sure.  I've asked for
> clarification on that.  At the point the BIOS does the MCHECK, if X2APIC mode is
> enabled, the ucode will set the LOCK bit, and any attempt after that to disable
> the APIC will result in the fault.  Now, this assumes the BIOS will DTRT, and
> always enable x2APIC when SGX or TDX are enabled AND always perform the MCHECK,
> AND do those things in the right order.  I'm not a BIOS guy so I have no idea
> where to even look to see if/where that is documented.  I can certainly try to
> track that down if needed.
> 
> I'm not sure if that's any clearer?  I guess I could try some code:
> 
> if (SGX_enabled() || TDX_enabled()
> 	set_x2apic_mode();
> 
> .....
> 
> MCHECK <-----At this point if x2APIC mode is on then the ucode set's the lock bit.
> 
> .....
> 
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> 

Hi Daniel,

This is new to me.  Could you also include me when you are seeking for internal
clarification (and documentation publication)?

-- 
Thanks,
-Kai



  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-11 10:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-09 23:40 [PATCH] x86/apic: Don't disable x2APIC if locked Daniel Sneddon
2022-08-10 18:01 ` Dave Hansen
2022-08-10 18:30   ` Daniel Sneddon
2022-08-10 18:52     ` Dave Hansen
2022-08-10 19:40       ` Daniel Sneddon
2022-08-10 19:59         ` Dave Hansen
2022-08-10 20:06           ` Daniel Sneddon
2022-08-10 20:29             ` Daniel Sneddon
2022-08-10 21:57               ` Dave Hansen
2022-08-10 22:06         ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-08-10 22:56           ` Daniel Sneddon
2022-08-10 23:03           ` Daniel Sneddon
2022-08-10 23:09             ` Dave Hansen
2022-08-10 23:38               ` Daniel Sneddon
2022-08-10 23:44                 ` Dave Hansen
2022-08-11  0:01                   ` Daniel Sneddon
2022-08-11  0:38                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-08-11  0:59                       ` Daniel Sneddon
2022-08-11 10:08                         ` Huang, Kai [this message]
2022-08-11  0:17                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-08-11  0:40                   ` Daniel Sneddon
2022-08-11  8:29               ` Huang, Kai

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