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From: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>
To: Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, tiwai@suse.de,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Ranjani Sridharan <ranjani.sridharan@linux.intel.com>,
	broonie@kernel.org, srinivas.kandagatla@linaro.org,
	jank@cadence.com, slawomir.blauciak@intel.com,
	Sanyog Kale <sanyog.r.kale@intel.com>,
	Bard liao <yung-chuan.liao@linux.intel.com>,
	Rander Wang <rander.wang@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] [PATCH v5 09/17] soundwire: intel: remove platform devices and use 'Master Devices' instead
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 18:13:46 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5be4d9df-0f46-d36f-471c-aae9e1f55cc0@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191227090826.GM3006@vkoul-mobl>



>> +extern struct sdw_md_driver intel_sdw_driver;
> 
> who uses this intel_sdw_driver? I would assumed someone would register
> this with the core...

this is a structure used by intel_init(), see the following code.

+		md = sdw_md_add(&intel_sdw_driver,
+				res->parent,
+				acpi_fwnode_handle(adev),
+				i);

that will in turn call intel_master_probe() as defined below:

+struct sdw_md_driver intel_sdw_driver = {
+	.probe = intel_master_probe,
+	.startup = intel_master_startup,
+	

>> -		link->pdev = pdev;
>> -		link++;
>> +		/* let the SoundWire master driver to its probe */
>> +		md->driver->probe(md, link);
> 
> So you are invoking driver probe here.. That is typically role of driver
> core to do that.. If we need that, make driver core do that for you!
> 
> That reminds me I am missing match code for master driver...

There is no match for the master because it doesn't have an existence in 
ACPI. There are no _ADR or HID that can be used, the only thing that 
exists is the Controller which has 4 sublinks. Each master must be added 
  by hand.

Also the SoundWire master cannot be enumerated or matched against a 
SoundWire bus, since it controls the bus itself (that would be a chicken 
and egg problem). The SoundWire master would need to be matched on a 
parent bus (which does not exist for Intel) since the hardware is 
embedded in a larger audio cluster that's visible on PCI only.

Currently for Intel platforms, the SoundWire master device is created by 
the SOF driver (via the abstraction in intel_init.c).

> So we seem to be somewhere is middle wrt driver probing here! IIUC this
> is not a full master driver, thats okay, but then it is not
> completely transparent either...
> 
> I was somehow thinking that the driver will continue to be
> 'platform/acpi/of' driver and master device abstraction will be
> handled in the core (for example see how the busses like i2c handle
> this). The master device is created and used to represent but driver
> probing etc is not done

I2C controllers are typically PCI devices or have some sort of ACPI 
description. This is not the case for SoundWire masters on Intel 
platforms, so even if I wanted to I would have no ability to implement 
any matching or parent bus registration.

Also the notion of 'probe' does not necessarily mean that the device is 
attached to a bus, we use DAI 'drivers' in ASoC and still have 
probe/remove callbacks.

And if you look at the definitions, we added additional callbacks since 
probe/remove are not enough to deal with hardware restrictions:

For Intel platforms, we have a startup() callback which is only invoked 
once the DSP is powered and the rails stable. Likewise we added an 
'autonomous_clock_stop()' callback which will be needed when the Linux 
driver hands-over control of the hardware to the DSP firmware, e.g. to 
deal with in-band wakes in D0i3.

FWIW, the implementation here follows what was suggested for Greybus 
'Host Devices' [1] [2], so it's not like I am creating any sort of 
dangerous precedent.

[1] 
https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/drivers/greybus/es2.c#L1275
[2] https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/drivers/greybus/hd.c#L124


  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-28  0:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-17 21:02 [PATCH v5 00/17] soundwire: intel: implement new ASoC interfaces Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-17 21:02 ` [PATCH v5 01/17] soundwire: renames to prepare support for master drivers/devices Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-17 21:02 ` [PATCH v5 02/17] soundwire: rename dev_to_sdw_dev macro Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-27  6:54   ` Vinod Koul
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 03/17] soundwire: rename drv_to_sdw_slave_driver macro Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-27  7:00   ` Vinod Koul
2019-12-27 23:23     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-28 12:03       ` Vinod Koul
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 04/17] soundwire: bus_type: rename sdw_drv_ to sdw_slave_drv Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 05/17] soundwire: intel: rename res field as link_res Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 06/17] soundwire: add support for sdw_slave_type Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-27  7:03   ` Vinod Koul
2019-12-27 23:26     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-28 12:05       ` Vinod Koul
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 07/17] soundwire: slave: move uevent handling to slave device level Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 08/17] soundwire: add initial definitions for sdw_master_device Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-27  7:14   ` Vinod Koul
2019-12-27 23:38     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-28 12:09       ` Vinod Koul
2020-01-02 17:36         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-01-06  5:32           ` Vinod Koul
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 09/17] soundwire: intel: remove platform devices and use 'Master Devices' instead Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-27  9:08   ` Vinod Koul
2019-12-28  0:13     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart [this message]
2020-01-06  5:42       ` [alsa-devel] " Vinod Koul
2020-01-06 14:51         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-01-10  6:43           ` Vinod Koul
2020-01-10 16:08             ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-01-13  5:18               ` Vinod Koul
2020-01-13 15:22                 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-01-14  6:09   ` Vinod Koul
2020-01-14 16:01     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-01-18  7:12       ` Vinod Koul
2020-01-21 17:31         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-01-28 10:50           ` Vinod Koul
2020-01-28 16:02             ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-01-29  5:08               ` Vinod Koul
2020-01-29 14:59                 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-02-03 12:02                   ` Vinod Koul
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 10/17] soundwire: register master device driver Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 11/17] soundwire: intel: add prepare support in sdw dai driver Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 12/17] soundwire: intel: add trigger " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 13/17] soundwire: intel: add sdw_stream_setup helper for .startup callback Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 14/17] soundwire: intel: free all resources on hw_free() Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 15/17] soundwire: intel_init: add implementation of sdw_intel_enable_irq() Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 16/17] soundwire: intel_init: use EXPORT_SYMBOL_NS Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 17/17] soundwire: intel: " Pierre-Louis Bossart

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