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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Ivan Teterevkov <ivan.teterevkov@nutanix.com>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Tiberiu Georgescu <tiberiu.georgescu@nutanix.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>,
	Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Carl Waldspurger [C]" <carl.waldspurger@nutanix.com>,
	Florian Schmidt <flosch@nutanix.com>,
	"ovzxemul@gmail.com" <ovzxemul@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 24/26] mm/pagemap: Recognize uffd-wp bit for shmem/hugetlbfs
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2021 18:19:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5c3c84ee-02f6-a2af-13b8-5dcf70676641@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CY4PR0201MB3460E372956C0E1B8D33F904E9E39@CY4PR0201MB3460.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

On 21.07.21 16:38, Ivan Teterevkov wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 5:56 PM +0000, Peter Xu wrote:
>> I'm also curious what would be the real use to have an accurate PM_SWAP
>> accounting.  To me current implementation may not provide accurate value but
>> should be good enough for most cases.  However not sure whether it's also true
>> for your use case.
> 
> We want the PM_SWAP bit implemented (for shared memory in the pagemap
> interface) to enhance the live migration for some fraction of the guest
> VMs that have their pages swapped out to the host swap. Once those pages
> are paged in and transferred over network, we then want to release them
> with madvise(MADV_PAGEOUT) and preserve the working set of the guest VMs
> to reduce the thrashing of the host swap.

There are 3 possibilities I think (swap is just another variant of the 
page cache):

1) The page is not in the page cache, e.g., it resides on disk or in a 
swap file. pte_none().
2) The page is in the page cache and is not mapped into the page table. 
pte_none().
3) The page is in the page cache and mapped into the page table. 
!pte_none().

Do I understand correctly that you want to identify 1) and indicate it 
via PM_SWAP?

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-21 16:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-15 20:13 [PATCH v5 00/26] userfaultfd-wp: Support shmem and hugetlbfs Peter Xu
2021-07-15 20:13 ` [PATCH v5 01/26] mm/shmem: Unconditionally set pte dirty in mfill_atomic_install_pte Peter Xu
2021-07-15 20:13 ` [PATCH v5 02/26] shmem/userfaultfd: Take care of UFFDIO_COPY_MODE_WP Peter Xu
2021-07-15 20:13 ` [PATCH v5 03/26] mm: Clear vmf->pte after pte_unmap_same() returns Peter Xu
2021-07-15 20:14 ` [PATCH v5 04/26] mm/userfaultfd: Introduce special pte for unmapped file-backed mem Peter Xu
2021-07-15 20:14 ` [PATCH v5 05/26] mm/swap: Introduce the idea of special swap ptes Peter Xu
2021-07-16  5:50   ` Alistair Popple
2021-07-16 19:11     ` Peter Xu
2021-07-21 11:28       ` Alistair Popple
2021-07-21 21:35         ` Peter Xu
2021-07-22  1:08           ` Alistair Popple
2021-07-22 15:21             ` Peter Xu
2021-07-15 20:14 ` [PATCH v5 06/26] shmem/userfaultfd: Handle uffd-wp special pte in page fault handler Peter Xu
2021-07-15 20:14 ` [PATCH v5 07/26] mm: Drop first_index/last_index in zap_details Peter Xu
2021-07-15 20:14 ` [PATCH v5 08/26] mm: Introduce zap_details.zap_flags Peter Xu
2021-07-15 20:14 ` [PATCH v5 09/26] mm: Introduce ZAP_FLAG_SKIP_SWAP Peter Xu
2021-07-15 20:14 ` [PATCH v5 10/26] shmem/userfaultfd: Persist uffd-wp bit across zapping for file-backed Peter Xu
2021-07-15 20:15 ` [PATCH v5 11/26] shmem/userfaultfd: Allow wr-protect none pte for file-backed mem Peter Xu
2021-07-15 20:16 ` [PATCH v5 12/26] shmem/userfaultfd: Allows file-back mem to be uffd wr-protected on thps Peter Xu
2021-07-15 20:16 ` [PATCH v5 13/26] shmem/userfaultfd: Handle the left-overed special swap ptes Peter Xu
2021-07-15 20:16 ` [PATCH v5 14/26] shmem/userfaultfd: Pass over uffd-wp special swap pte when fork() Peter Xu
2021-07-15 20:16 ` [PATCH v5 15/26] mm/hugetlb: Drop __unmap_hugepage_range definition from hugetlb.h Peter Xu
2021-07-15 20:16 ` [PATCH v5 16/26] mm/hugetlb: Introduce huge pte version of uffd-wp helpers Peter Xu
2021-07-15 20:16 ` [PATCH v5 17/26] hugetlb/userfaultfd: Hook page faults for uffd write protection Peter Xu
2021-07-20 15:37   ` kernel test robot
2021-07-21 21:50     ` Peter Xu
2021-07-15 20:16 ` [PATCH v5 18/26] hugetlb/userfaultfd: Take care of UFFDIO_COPY_MODE_WP Peter Xu
2021-07-20 23:59   ` kernel test robot
2021-07-15 20:16 ` [PATCH v5 19/26] hugetlb/userfaultfd: Handle UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT Peter Xu
2021-07-21  8:24   ` kernel test robot
2021-07-15 20:16 ` [PATCH v5 20/26] mm/hugetlb: Introduce huge version of special swap pte helpers Peter Xu
2021-07-15 20:16 ` [PATCH v5 21/26] hugetlb/userfaultfd: Handle uffd-wp special pte in hugetlb pf handler Peter Xu
2021-07-15 20:16 ` [PATCH v5 22/26] hugetlb/userfaultfd: Allow wr-protect none ptes Peter Xu
2021-07-15 20:16 ` [PATCH v5 23/26] hugetlb/userfaultfd: Only drop uffd-wp special pte if required Peter Xu
2021-07-15 20:16 ` [PATCH v5 24/26] mm/pagemap: Recognize uffd-wp bit for shmem/hugetlbfs Peter Xu
2021-07-19  9:53   ` Tiberiu Georgescu
2021-07-19 16:03     ` Peter Xu
2021-07-19 17:23       ` Tiberiu Georgescu
2021-07-19 17:56         ` Peter Xu
2021-07-21 14:38           ` Ivan Teterevkov
2021-07-21 16:19             ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2021-07-21 19:54               ` Ivan Teterevkov
2021-07-21 22:28                 ` Peter Xu
2021-07-21 22:57                   ` Peter Xu
2021-07-22  6:27                     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-07-22 16:08                       ` Peter Xu
2021-07-15 20:16 ` [PATCH v5 25/26] mm/userfaultfd: Enable write protection for shmem & hugetlbfs Peter Xu
2021-07-15 20:16 ` [PATCH v5 26/26] userfaultfd/selftests: Enable uffd-wp for shmem/hugetlbfs Peter Xu
2021-07-19 19:21 ` [PATCH v5 00/26] userfaultfd-wp: Support shmem and hugetlbfs David Hildenbrand
2021-07-19 20:12   ` Peter Xu
2021-07-22 18:30 ` Peter Xu

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