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From: Tyler Hicks <tyhicks@canonical.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>, Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Will Drewry <wad@chromium.org>,
	linux-audit@redhat.com,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	John Crispin <john@phrozen.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] seccomp: Add sysctl to display available actions
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:05:41 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5ebcdb7f-4aca-34a0-abbd-81eb5372776d@canonical.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrV9NsTNRA_CqNTvqhE0WLDEBU8VjzPTaLOxcZ5XKc-4dw@mail.gmail.com>


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On 02/16/2017 01:01 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Tyler Hicks <tyhicks@canonical.com> wrote:
>> On 02/15/2017 09:14 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 7:45 PM, Tyler Hicks <tyhicks@canonical.com> wrote:
>>>> This patch creates a read-only sysctl containing an ordered list of
>>>> seccomp actions that the kernel supports. The ordering, from left to
>>>> right, is the lowest action value (kill) to the highest action value
>>>> (allow). Currently, a read of the sysctl file would return "kill trap
>>>> errno trace allow". The contents of this sysctl file can be useful for
>>>> userspace code as well as the system administrator.
>>>
>>> Would this make more sense as a new seccomp(2) mode a la
>>> SECCOMP_HAS_ACTION?  Then sandboxy things that have no fs access could
>>> use it.
>>>
>>
>> It would make sense for code that needs to check which actions are
>> available. It wouldn't make sense for administrators that need to check
>> which actions are available unless libseccomp provided a wrapper utility.
>>
>> Is this a theoretical concern or do you know of a sandboxed piece of
>> code that cannot access the sysctl before constructing a seccomp filter?
>>
> 
> It's semi-theoretical.  But suppose I unshare namespaces, unmount a
> bunch of stuff, then ask libseccomp to install a filter.  (I've
> written code that does exactly that.)   libseccomp won't be able to
> read the sysctl.

That's a good point. It seems like we might need both mechanisms
(SECCOMP_HAS_ACTION for code and actions_avail for humans).

Tyler

> 
> --Andy
> 



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  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-16 20:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-14  3:45 [PATCH v3 0/4] Improved seccomp logging Tyler Hicks
2017-02-14  3:45 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] seccomp: Add sysctl to display available actions Tyler Hicks
2017-02-16  1:00   ` Kees Cook
2017-02-16 18:43     ` Tyler Hicks
2017-02-16  3:14   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-02-16 18:47     ` Tyler Hicks
2017-02-16 19:01       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-02-16 20:05         ` Tyler Hicks [this message]
2017-02-14  3:45 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] seccomp: Add sysctl to configure actions that should be logged Tyler Hicks
2017-02-14  3:45 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] seccomp: Create an action to log before allowing Tyler Hicks
2017-02-14  3:45 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] seccomp: Add tests for SECCOMP_RET_LOG Tyler Hicks
2017-02-16  3:24 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] Improved seccomp logging Andy Lutomirski
2017-02-16 19:37   ` Tyler Hicks
2017-02-16 23:29   ` Kees Cook
2017-02-17 17:00     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-02-22 18:39       ` Kees Cook
2017-02-22 18:46     ` Kees Cook
2017-04-07 22:16       ` Tyler Hicks
2017-04-07 22:46         ` Kees Cook
2017-04-07 23:46           ` Tyler Hicks
2017-04-11  3:59             ` Kees Cook
2017-04-27 22:17               ` Tyler Hicks
2017-04-27 23:42                 ` Kees Cook
2017-05-02  2:41                   ` Tyler Hicks
2017-05-02 16:14                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-10 15:18         ` Steve Grubb
2017-04-10 15:57         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-10 19:22           ` Tyler Hicks
2017-04-11  4:03           ` Kees Cook

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