From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750909AbVKAPs2 (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Nov 2005 10:48:28 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750911AbVKAPs2 (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Nov 2005 10:48:28 -0500 Received: from nwd2mail3.analog.com ([137.71.25.52]:23434 "EHLO nwd2mail3.analog.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750908AbVKAPs1 (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Nov 2005 10:48:27 -0500 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.0.20051101075832.01ebc3b0@ptg1.spd.analog.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 10:48:07 -0500 To: Jacques Moreau From: Robin Getz Subject: Re: ADI Blackfin porting for kernel-2.6.13 Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat 10/22/2005, Jacques asked: >Does this patch is only for Blackfin processor or it add some support for >fusiv [1] communications processor that are in residential Gateway ? The Blackfin/uClinux 2.6.x patch which was prepared (and will be maintained) by a separate team(1) who is not working on any fusiv processors (which are MIPS-based). >If no, do you know if analog plans to realease the linux 2.4/2.6 >modification that have been made in order to support these processors ? Not sure - Since the two groups are separate, no one on the team here knows the plans of the Fusiv team. >IRRC some Sagem residential Gateways (will) run on Linux OS and the users >sould be able ask for the GPL code. So, the best place to go would be to Sagem (or any company shipping a product with Embedded Linux/uClinux). Since they are responsible for distributing the binary, it is their responsibility to make the source released under GPL or derived from previously GPL'ed software available. If you received a product from Sagem, which you believe includes GPL'ed software - call them and ask for the source: http://www.sagem.com/index.php?id=445&L=0 If you received a development kit, or other reference design from ADI, which you believe includes GPL'ed software, call them and ask for the source: http://www.analog.com/salesdir/continent.asp Thanks -Robin (1)There is a small group of open source developers inside of ADI, focusing on the support of the Blackfin processor with various open source projects. We have people dedicated to: - the FSF's Toolchain (gcc, gdb, binutils) where our patches have been accepted into the mainline projects (still working on the last kinks gdb pthreads support). - Das U-Boot as our chip initialization and bootloader. Booting from the network is very powerful in many embedded environments. - the GNU/uClinux kernel (Luke's recent patch for 2.6.14), where end products are beginning to ship in volume. - open source hardware design - free (speech) software isn't any good on closed hardware. All of our schematics, gerbers, PCB manufacturing files are released under the GPL, and are mostly avalible from Digikey, at sub $225 price points. - Simulation support with Skyeye http://gro.clinux.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=2619 Our team completely embraces the open source model (release early, release often) - using open source tools (GForge, Tinderbox, cvs, dokuwiki), publishing everything we do/understand on the web(2). We have been responsible for contributions in other open source projects: - helped port Linux Test Project (LTP) so it could run on a uClinux/uclibc/no-mmu environment - helped port Speex to the Blackfin, to run a completely open source embedded VoIP phone, based on Linphone. - helping update uClinux-dist to other main-line projects. - others, but I am starting to get a little wordy. The combination of Blackfin/uClinux is pretty compelling - the hardware(3) has a pretty good span of price(as low as $4.95)/performance(BF561 include Dual Core, 600MHz each) & I won't go into the benefits of uClinux and open source here :) If anyone is interested in looking at things running on real hardware, I do have a limited amount of hardware I can lend people for poking/porting. Some of the things we have working are pretty cool[4]. Send me a private email. [2]http://blackfin.uclinux.org [2]http://docs.blackfin.uclinux.org [2]http://cvs.blackfin.uclinux.org [3]http://www.analog.com/processors/processors/blackfin/index.html [4]http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT9272421886.html