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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	Nicholas Bellinger <nab@linux-iscsi.org>,
	Shaohua Li <shli@fb.com>,
	Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] percpu_ida: Use _irqsave() instead of local_irq_save() + spin_lock
Date: Sat, 5 May 2018 08:10:20 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <60a88d5f-95eb-ba45-e59c-5a822a3d370b@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180505035154.GB20495@bombadil.infradead.org>

On 5/4/18 9:51 PM, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Fri, May 04, 2018 at 04:22:16PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
>> I'm feeling a bit hostile toward lib/percpu_ida.c in general ;) It has
>> very few users and seems rather complicated (what's with that
>> schedule() in percpu_ida_alloc?).  I'm suspecting and hoping that if
>> someone can figure out what the requirements were, this could all be
>> zapped and reimplemented using something else which we already have.
> 
> Note that I have no code in percpu_ida ... it's quite different from
> the regular IDA.  But I have noticed the stunning similarity between the
> percpu_ida and the code in lib/sbitmap.c.  I have no idea which one is
> better, but they're essentially doing the same thing.

Not sure where you see that "stunning similarity"? The sbitmap code is
basically the blk-mq tagging sparse bitmaps, abstracted into a generally
usable form. The percpu_ida design works fine for lower utilization, but
it fell apart for the tagging use case where we can easily run at full
utilization. percpu_ida has percpu caches, sbitmap gets away with just
percpu hints. These caches are why it doesn't work well for > 50%
utilization. sbitmap also supports shallow operations, and online
resizing. Outside of the sharing the same basic functionality of "give
me some free ID", I really don't see a lot of similarities. In terms of
functionality, yes, I don't think it would be hard to get rid of
percpu_ida and just replace it with sbitmap. Probably a worthwhile
pursuit.

-- 
Jens Axboe

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-05 14:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-04 15:32 [PATCH] percpu_ida: Use _irqsave() instead of local_irq_save() + spin_lock Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-05-04 23:22 ` Andrew Morton
2018-05-05  3:51   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-05 14:10     ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2018-05-05 14:42       ` Jens Axboe
2018-05-05 15:52       ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-07 13:47         ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-07 21:34           ` Jens Axboe

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