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From: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.ibm.com>
To: Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>
Cc: linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, zohar@linux.ibm.com,
	serge@hallyn.com, containers@lists.linux.dev,
	dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com, ebiederm@xmission.com,
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	mpeters@redhat.com, lhinds@redhat.com, lsturman@redhat.com,
	puiterwi@redhat.com, jejb@linux.ibm.com, jamjoom@us.ibm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, paul@paul-moore.com,
	rgb@redhat.com, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	jmorris@namei.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 10/16] ima: Implement hierarchical processing of file accesses
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2021 11:50:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <60fa585b-984e-fa13-e76f-56083a726259@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211208122339.vkqtuckl74ywg3s5@wittgenstein>


On 12/8/21 07:23, Christian Brauner wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 01:09:54PM +0100, Christian Brauner wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 07, 2021 at 03:21:21PM -0500, Stefan Berger wrote:
>>> Implement hierarchical processing of file accesses in IMA namespaces by
>>> walking the list of IMA namespaces towards the init_ima_ns. This way
>>> file accesses can be audited in an IMA namespace and also be evaluated
>>> against the IMA policies of parent IMA namespaces.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.ibm.com>
>>> ---
>>>   security/integrity/ima/ima_main.c | 29 +++++++++++++++++++++++++----
>>>   1 file changed, 25 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/security/integrity/ima/ima_main.c b/security/integrity/ima/ima_main.c
>>> index 2121a831f38a..e9fa46eedd27 100644
>>> --- a/security/integrity/ima/ima_main.c
>>> +++ b/security/integrity/ima/ima_main.c
>>> @@ -200,10 +200,10 @@ void ima_file_free(struct file *file)
>>>   	ima_check_last_writer(iint, inode, file);
>>>   }
>>>   
>>> -static int process_measurement(struct ima_namespace *ns,
>>> -			       struct file *file, const struct cred *cred,
>>> -			       u32 secid, char *buf, loff_t size, int mask,
>>> -			       enum ima_hooks func)
>>> +static int _process_measurement(struct ima_namespace *ns,
>> Hm, it's much more common to use double underscores then single
>> underscores to
>>
>> __process_measurement()
>>
>> reads a lot more natural to people perusing kernel code quite often.
>>
>>> +				struct file *file, const struct cred *cred,
>>> +				u32 secid, char *buf, loff_t size, int mask,
>>> +				enum ima_hooks func)
>>>   {
>>>   	struct inode *inode = file_inode(file);
>>>   	struct integrity_iint_cache *iint = NULL;
>>> @@ -405,6 +405,27 @@ static int process_measurement(struct ima_namespace *ns,
>>>   	return 0;
>>>   }
>>>   
>>> +static int process_measurement(struct ima_namespace *ns,
>>> +			       struct file *file, const struct cred *cred,
>>> +			       u32 secid, char *buf, loff_t size, int mask,
>>> +			       enum ima_hooks func)
>>> +{
>>> +	int ret = 0;
>>> +	struct user_namespace *user_ns;
>>> +
>>> +	do {
>>> +		ret = _process_measurement(ns, file, cred, secid, buf, size, mask, func);
>>> +		if (ret)
>>> +			break;
>>> +		user_ns = ns->user_ns->parent;
>>> +		if (!user_ns)
>>> +			break;
>>> +		ns = user_ns->ima_ns;
>>> +	} while (1);
>> I'd rather write this as:
>>
>> 	struct user_namespace *user_ns = ns->user_ns;
>>
>> 	while (user_ns) {
>> 		ns = user_ns->ima_ns;
>>
>>     		ret = __process_measurement(ns, file, cred, secid, buf, size, mask, func);
>>     		if (ret)
>>     			break;
>> 		user_ns = user_ns->parent;
>> 		
>> 	}
>>
>> because the hierarchy is only an implicit property inherited by ima
>> namespaces from the implementation of user namespaces. In other words,
>> we're only indirectly walking a hierarchy of ima namespaces because
>> we're walking a hierarchy of user namespaces. So the ima ns actually
>> just gives us the entrypoint into the userns hierarchy which the double
>> deref writing it with a while() makes obvious.
> Which brings me to another point.
>
> Technically nothing seems to prevent an ima_ns to survive the
> destruction of its associated userns in ima_ns->user_ns?
>
> One thread does get_ima_ns() and mucks around with it while another one
> does put_user_ns().
>
> Assume it's the last reference to the userns which is now -
> asynchronously - cleaned up from ->work. So at some point you're ending
> with a dangling pointer in ima_ns->user_ns eventually causing a UAF.
>
> If I'm thinking correct than you need to fix this. I can think of two
> ways right now where one of them I'm not sure how well that would work:
> 1. ima_ns takes a reference count to userns at creation. Here you need
>     to make very sure that you're not ending up with reference counting
>     cycles where the two structs keep each other alive.

Right. I am not sure what the trigger would be for ima_ns to release 
that one reference.


> 2. rcu trickery. That's the one I'm not sure how well that would work
>     where you'd need rcu_read_lock()/rcu_read_unlock() with a
>     get_user_ns() in the middle whenever you're trying to get a ref to
>     the userns from an ima_ns and handle the case where the userns is
>     gone.
>
> Or maybe I'me missing something in the patch series that makes this all
> a non-issue.

I suppose one can always call current_user_ns() to get a pointer to the 
current user namespace that the process is accessing the file in that 
IMA now reacts to. With the hierarchical processing we are walking 
backwards towards init_user_ns. The problem should only exist if 
something else frees the current user namespace (or its parents) so that 
the hierarchy collapses. Assuming we are always in a process context 
then 'current' should protect us, no ?



  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-08 16:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-07 20:21 [PATCH v4 00/16] ima: Namespace IMA with audit support in IMA-ns Stefan Berger
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 01/16] ima: Add IMA namespace support Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 11:29   ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-08 11:54     ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-08 14:50       ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 02/16] ima: Define ns_status for storing namespaced iint data Stefan Berger
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 03/16] ima: Namespace audit status flags Stefan Berger
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 04/16] ima: Move delayed work queue and variables into ima_namespace Stefan Berger
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 05/16] ima: Move IMA's keys queue related " Stefan Berger
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 06/16] ima: Move policy " Stefan Berger
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 07/16] ima: Move ima_htable " Stefan Berger
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 08/16] ima: Move measurement list related variables " Stefan Berger
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 09/16] ima: Only accept AUDIT rules for IMA non-init_ima_ns namespaces for now Stefan Berger
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 10/16] ima: Implement hierarchical processing of file accesses Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 12:09   ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-08 12:23     ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-08 16:50       ` Stefan Berger [this message]
2021-12-08 18:22         ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-15 23:04           ` Mimi Zohar
2021-12-16  2:55             ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 11/16] securityfs: Only use simple_pin_fs/simple_release_fs for init_user_ns Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 11:58   ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-08 14:03     ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 12:46   ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-11 14:16   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-11 14:44     ` James Bottomley
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 12/16] securityfs: Extend securityfs with namespacing support Stefan Berger
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 13/16] ima: Move some IMA policy and filesystem related variables into ima_namespace Stefan Berger
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 14/16] ima: Use mac_admin_ns_capable() to check corresponding capability Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 12:40   ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 15/16] ima: Move dentries into ima_namespace Stefan Berger
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 16/16] ima: Setup securityfs for IMA namespace Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 12:58   ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-08 13:16     ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-08 14:11     ` James Bottomley
2021-12-08 14:46       ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-08 15:04         ` James Bottomley
2021-12-08 15:22           ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-08 15:39     ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 15:49       ` Christian Brauner

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