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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Perf: event wakeup discards sched_waking events
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 16:36:59 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <615183542.671.1547501819850.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190114130957.GA10486@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

----- On Jan 14, 2019, at 8:09 AM, Peter Zijlstra peterz@infradead.org wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 12:45:27PM -0500, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> 
>> static void perf_pending_event(struct irq_work *entry)
>> {
>>         struct perf_event *event = container_of(entry,
>>                         struct perf_event, pending);
>>         int rctx;
>> 
>>         rctx = perf_swevent_get_recursion_context();
>>         /*
>>          * If we 'fail' here, that's OK, it means recursion is already disabled
>>          * and we won't recurse 'further'.
>>          */
>> 
>>         if (event->pending_disable) {
>>                 event->pending_disable = 0;
>>                 perf_event_disable_local(event);
>>         }
>> 
>>         if (event->pending_wakeup) {
>>                 event->pending_wakeup = 0;
>>                 perf_event_wakeup(event);
>>         }
>> 
>>         if (rctx >= 0)
>>                 perf_swevent_put_recursion_context(rctx);
>> }
>> 
>> One side-effect of perf_event_wakeup() is to generate a sched_waking
>> event. But I suspect it won't be traced by perf because it is invoked before
>> putting the recursion context.
>> 
>> Is there a reason why the wakeup is done before putting the recursion
>> context ?
> 
> d525211f9d1b ("perf: Fix irq_work 'tail' recursion")
> 
> If we were to allow perf_event_wakeup() to generate its tracepoint, we'd
> be back to square #1, no?

Considering that perf tracing code has side-effects that generate additional
events, it's indeed best not to trace them, otherwise you indeed end up with
tail recursion.

Can ftrace end up in the same situation through rb_wake_up_waiters() ? I suspect
the tail recursion would be hard to trigger if the wakeup only happens once per
page though, unless the events generated end up filling up a page.

FWIW, LTTng avoids this entire issue by using a timer-based polling mechanism
to ensure the tracing code does not call into the scheduler wakeup.

Thanks,

Mathieu

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-14 21:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-10  1:38 Possible use of RCU while in extended QS: idle vs RCU read-side in interrupt vs rcu_eqs_exit Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-01-10  4:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-10  6:30   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-01-10 14:19     ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-10 16:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-01-10 16:44   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-01-10 17:11     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-01-10 17:23       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-01-10 17:25       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-01-10 17:45         ` Perf: event wakeup discards sched_waking events Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-01-14 13:09           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-14 21:36             ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2019-01-14 22:04               ` Steven Rostedt
2019-01-14 22:31                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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