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From: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.ibm.com>
To: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
	Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
	James Bottomley <jejb@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, serge@hallyn.com,
	containers@lists.linux.dev, dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com,
	ebiederm@xmission.com, krzysztof.struczynski@huawei.com,
	roberto.sassu@huawei.com, mpeters@redhat.com, lhinds@redhat.com,
	lsturman@redhat.com, puiterwi@redhat.com, jamjoom@us.ibm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, paul@paul-moore.com,
	rgb@redhat.com, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	jmorris@namei.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 15/16] ima: Move dentries into ima_namespace
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2021 09:17:14 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <66b377f6-40b4-77da-c02b-2650fa72d0b4@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d8a6a6827da17825c1aa011256b96d195b1ebf13.camel@linux.ibm.com>


On 12/10/21 08:02, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> On Fri, 2021-12-10 at 07:40 -0500, Stefan Berger wrote:
>> On 12/10/21 07:09, Mimi Zohar wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2021-12-10 at 12:49 +0100, Christian Brauner wrote:
>>>>> There's still the problem that if you write the policy, making the file
>>>>> disappear then unmount and remount securityfs it will come back.  My
>>>>> guess for fixing this is that we only stash the policy file reference,
>>>>> create it if NULL but then set the pointer to PTR_ERR(-EINVAL) or
>>>>> something and refuse to create it for that value.
>>>> Some sort of indicator that gets stashed in struct ima_ns that the file
>>>> does not get recreated on consecutive mounts. That shouldn't be hard to
>>>> fix.
>>> The policy file disappearing is for backwards compatibility, prior to
>>> being able to extend the custom policy.  For embedded usecases,
>>> allowing the policy to be written exactly once might makes sense.  Do
>>> we really want/need to continue to support removing the policy in
>>> namespaces?
>> I don't have an answer but should the behavior for the same #define in
>> this case be different for host and namespaces? Or should we just
>> 'select IMA_WRITE_POLICY and IMA_READ_POLICY' when IMA_NS is selected?
> The latter option sounds good.  Being able to analyze the namespace
> policy is really important.

Ok, I will adjust the Kconfig for this then. This then warrants the 
question whether to move the dentry into the ima_namespace. The current 
code looks like this.

#if !defined(CONFIG_IMA_WRITE_POLICY) && !defined(CONFIG_IMA_READ_POLICY)
         securityfs_remove(ns->policy_dentry);
         ns->policy_dentry = NULL;
         ns->policy_dentry_removed = true;
#elif defined(CONFIG_IMA_WRITE_POLICY)

With IMA_NS selecting IMA_WRITE_POLICY and IMA_READ_POLICY the above 
wouldn't be necessary anymore but I find it 'cleaner' to still have the 
dentry isolated rather than it being a global static as it was before...


>
> thanks,
>
> Mimi
>

  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-10 14:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-08 22:18 [PATCH v5 00/16] ima: Namespace IMA with audit support in IMA-ns Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 01/16] ima: Add IMA namespace support Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 02/16] ima: Define ns_status for storing namespaced iint data Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 03/16] ima: Namespace audit status flags Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 04/16] ima: Move delayed work queue and variables into ima_namespace Stefan Berger
2021-12-09 13:11   ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-09 15:09     ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 05/16] ima: Move IMA's keys queue related " Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 06/16] ima: Move policy " Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 07/16] ima: Move ima_htable " Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 08/16] ima: Move measurement list related variables " Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 09/16] ima: Only accept AUDIT rules for IMA non-init_ima_ns namespaces for now Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 10/16] ima: Implement hierarchical processing of file accesses Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 11/16] securityfs: Only use simple_pin_fs/simple_release_fs for init_user_ns Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 12/16] securityfs: Extend securityfs with namespacing support Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 13/16] ima: Move some IMA policy and filesystem related variables into ima_namespace Stefan Berger
2021-12-09 19:11   ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-09 20:42     ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-10  0:57     ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-10 11:32       ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-10 13:57         ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-10 14:21           ` James Bottomley
2021-12-11  9:50           ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-11 10:45             ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-13 15:33             ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-13 15:50               ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-13 16:03                 ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-13 16:25                 ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-13 16:37                   ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-13 16:40                 ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-10 20:08         ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-11  8:46           ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 14/16] ima: Use mac_admin_ns_capable() to check corresponding capability Stefan Berger
2021-12-09  7:22   ` Denis Semakin
2021-12-09 13:23     ` James Bottomley
2021-12-09  8:09   ` Denis Semakin
2021-12-11 15:02     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2021-12-11 15:38       ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-11 16:00         ` James Bottomley
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 15/16] ima: Move dentries into ima_namespace Stefan Berger
2021-12-09 14:34   ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-09 14:37     ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-09 14:41       ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-09 15:00         ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-09 15:47           ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-09 15:30       ` James Bottomley
2021-12-09 19:38         ` James Bottomley
2021-12-09 20:13           ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-10 11:49           ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-10 12:09             ` Mimi Zohar
2021-12-10 12:40               ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-10 13:02                 ` Mimi Zohar
2021-12-10 14:17                   ` Stefan Berger [this message]
2021-12-10 14:26                     ` James Bottomley
2021-12-10 15:26                       ` Mimi Zohar
2021-12-10 15:32                         ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-10 15:48                           ` Mimi Zohar
2021-12-10 16:40                             ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-10 12:40               ` James Bottomley
2021-12-10 12:54                 ` Mimi Zohar
2021-12-12 14:13             ` James Bottomley
2021-12-13 11:25               ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-08 22:18 ` [PATCH v5 16/16] ima: Setup securityfs for IMA namespace Stefan Berger

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