From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754864AbcKUPgM (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 Nov 2016 10:36:12 -0500 Received: from mx1.molgen.mpg.de ([141.14.17.9]:39895 "EHLO mx1.molgen.mpg.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754809AbcKUPf4 (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 Nov 2016 10:35:56 -0500 Subject: Re: INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks with `kswapd` and `mem_cgroup_shrink_node` To: dvteam@molgen.mpg.de, Michal Hocko References: <24c226a5-1a4a-173e-8b4e-5107a2baac04@molgen.mpg.de> <28a9fabb-c9fe-c865-016a-467a4d5e2a34@molgen.mpg.de> <20161108170340.GB4127@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <6c717122-e671-b086-77ed-4b3c26398564@molgen.mpg.de> <20161108183938.GD4127@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <9f87f8f0-9d0f-f78f-8dca-993b09b19a69@molgen.mpg.de> <20161116173036.GK3612@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20161121134130.GB18112@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20161121140122.GU3612@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20161121141818.GD18112@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20161121142901.GV3612@linux.vnet.ibm.com> Cc: Paul Menzel , linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Josh Triplett From: Donald Buczek Message-ID: <68025f6c-6801-ab46-b0fc-a9407353d8ce@molgen.mpg.de> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 16:35:53 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20161121142901.GV3612@linux.vnet.ibm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 11/21/16 15:29, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 03:18:19PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote: >> On Mon 21-11-16 06:01:22, Paul E. McKenney wrote: >>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 02:41:31PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote: >> [...] >>>> To the patch. I cannot say I would like it. cond_resched_rcu_qs sounds >>>> way too lowlevel for this usage. If anything cond_resched somewhere inside >>>> mem_cgroup_iter would be more appropriate to me. >>> Like this? >>> >>> Thanx, Paul >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> diff --git a/mm/memcontrol.c b/mm/memcontrol.c >>> index ae052b5e3315..81cb30d5b2fc 100644 >>> --- a/mm/memcontrol.c >>> +++ b/mm/memcontrol.c >>> @@ -867,6 +867,7 @@ struct mem_cgroup *mem_cgroup_iter(struct mem_cgroup *root, >>> out: >>> if (prev && prev != root) >>> css_put(&prev->css); >>> + cond_resched_rcu_qs(); >> I still do not understand why should we play with _rcu_qs at all and a >> regular cond_resched is not sufficient. Anyway I would have to double >> check whether we can do cond_resched in the iterator. I do not remember >> having users which are atomic but I might be easily wrong here. Before >> we touch this code, though, I would really like to understand what is >> actually going on here because as I've already pointed out we should >> have some resched points in the reclaim path. > If there is a tight loop in the kernel, cond_resched() will ensure that > other tasks get a chance to run, but if there are no such tasks, it does > nothing to give RCU the quiescent state that it needs from time to time. > So if there is a possibility of a long-running in-kernel loop without > preemption by some other task, cond_resched_rcu_qs() is required. > > I welcome your deeper investigation -- I am very much treating symptoms > here, which might or might not have any relationship to fixing underlying > problems. > > Thanx, Paul > Hello, thanks a lot for looking into this! Let me add some information from the reporting site: * We've tried the patch from Paul E. McKenney (the one posted Wed, 16 Nov 2016) and it doesn't shut up the rcu stall warnings. * Log file from a boot with the patch applied ( grep kernel /var/log/messages ) is here : http://owww.molgen.mpg.de/~buczek/321322/2016-11-21_syslog.txt * This system is a backup server and walks over thousands of files sometimes with multiple parallel rsync processes. * No rcu_* warnings on that machine with 4.7.2, but with 4.8.4 , 4.8.6 , 4.8.8 and now 4.9.0-rc5+Pauls patch * When the backups are actually happening there might be relevant memory pressure from inode cache and the rsync processes. We saw the oom-killer kick in on another machine with same hardware and similar (a bit higher) workload. This other machine also shows a lot of rcu stall warnings since 4.8.4. * We see "rcu_sched detected stalls" also on some other machines since we switched to 4.8 but not as frequently as on the two backup servers. Usually there's "shrink_node" and "kswapd" on the top of the stack. Often "xfs_reclaim_inodes" variants on top of that. Donald -- Donald Buczek buczek@molgen.mpg.de Tel: +49 30 8413 1433