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From: "Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)" <alx.manpages@gmail.com>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/17] Add memberof(), split some headers, and slightly simplify code
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 17:49:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6909f9ed-609c-b179-6c34-2f9d8b1cb5a8@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YZfS4lCt8rMZ7UlS@smile.fi.intel.com>



On 11/19/21 17:37, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 05:12:19PM +0100, Alejandro Colomar (man-pages) wrote:
>> On 11/19/21 16:57, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
>>> On the plus side, I did see something on the order of a 30%
>>> compile speed improvement with clang, which is insane
>>> given that this only removed dead definitions.
>>
>> Huh!
>>
>> I'd like to see the kernel some day
>> not having _any_ hidden dependencies.
> 
> It's neither feasible nor practical. If we know the hard dependencies between
> headers, why should we not use implicit inclusion?
> 
> We all know that bitmap.h includes bitops.h and this is good and a must, why
> to avoid this?
> 

Well, none at all may be too much.
But being close to it would simplify much changing and especially
understanding the code.

At least avoiding 10 levels of indirection of includes
would be a good start :)

-- 
Alejandro Colomar
Linux man-pages comaintainer; https://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
http://www.alejandro-colomar.es/

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-19 16:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-19 11:36 [PATCH 00/17] Add memberof(), split some headers, and slightly simplify code Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-19 11:36 ` [PATCH 01/17] linux/container_of.h: Add memberof(T, m) Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-19 11:36 ` [PATCH 02/17] Use memberof(T, m) instead of explicit NULL dereference Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-23 18:07   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-11-19 11:36 ` [PATCH 03/17] Replace some uses of memberof() by its wrappers Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-19 11:36 ` [PATCH 04/17] linux/memberof.h: Move memberof() to separate header Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-19 11:36 ` [PATCH 05/17] linux/typeof_member.h: Move typeof_member() to a " Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-19 11:36 ` [PATCH 06/17] Simplify sizeof(typeof_member()) to sizeof_field() Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-19 11:36 ` [PATCH 07/17] linux/NULL.h: Move NULL to a separate header Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-19 11:36 ` [PATCH 08/17] linux/offsetof.h: Move offsetof(T, m) " Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-19 11:36 ` [PATCH 09/17] linux/offsetof.h: Implement offsetof() in terms of memberof() Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-19 11:36 ` [PATCH 10/17] linux/container_of.h: Implement container_of_safe() in terms of container_of() Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-19 11:36 ` [PATCH 11/17] linux/container_of.h: Cosmetic Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-19 11:36 ` [PATCH 12/17] linux/container_of.h: Remove unnecessary cast to (void *) Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-19 11:36 ` [PATCH 13/17] linux/sizeof_field.h: Move sizeof_field(T, m) to a separate header Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-19 11:36 ` [PATCH 14/17] include/linux/: Include a smaller header if just for NULL Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-19 11:36 ` [PATCH 15/17] linux/offsetofend.h: Move offsetofend(T, m) to a separate header Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-19 11:36 ` [PATCH 16/17] linux/array_size.h: Move ARRAY_SIZE(arr) " Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-19 11:36 ` [PATCH 17/17] include/: Include <linux/array_size.h> for ARRAY_SIZE() Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-19 12:47 ` [PATCH 00/17] Add memberof(), split some headers, and slightly simplify code Jani Nikula
2021-11-19 13:16   ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-11-19 13:48     ` Jani Nikula
2021-11-19 14:54     ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-11-19 14:47 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-11-19 15:06   ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-11-19 15:34     ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-11-19 15:38       ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-11-19 15:43         ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-11-19 15:49           ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-11-19 15:52             ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-11-19 16:07               ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-11-19 15:57     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-11-19 16:10       ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-11-19 16:18         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-11-19 16:22           ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-11-19 16:27             ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-11-19 16:35             ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-11-22 12:36               ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-11-19 16:12       ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-11-19 16:25         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-11-19 16:37         ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-11-19 16:49           ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages) [this message]
2021-11-20 13:00 ` [PATCH v2 00/20] Add memberof(), split headers, and " Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-20 13:00   ` [PATCH v2 01/20] linux/stddef.h, linux/offsetof.h: Split offsetof() into a separate header Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-20 16:14     ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-11-20 16:22       ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-11-20 13:00   ` [PATCH v2 02/20] linux/stddef.h, linux/sizeof_field.h: Split sizeof_field() " Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-20 16:16     ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-11-20 13:00   ` [PATCH v2 03/20] linux/stddef.h, linux/offsetofend.h: Split offsetofend() " Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-20 13:00   ` [PATCH v2 04/20] linux/stddef.h, linux/NULL.h: Split NULL " Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-20 13:00   ` [PATCH v2 05/20] linux/container_of.h, linux/typeof_member.h: Split typeof_member() " Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-20 13:00   ` [PATCH v2 06/20] linux/kernel.h, linux/array_size.h: Split ARRAY_SIZE() " Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-22  7:36     ` kernel test robot
2021-11-20 13:00   ` [PATCH v2 07/20] linux/memberof.h: Add memberof(T, m) macro Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-20 13:00   ` [PATCH v2 08/20] Implement container_of_safe() in terms of container_of() Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-21 13:31     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-11-20 13:00   ` [PATCH v2 09/20] Implement offsetof(), sizeof_member(), typeof_member(), and container_of() in terms of memberof() Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-20 13:00   ` [PATCH v2 10/20] linux/container_of.h: Remove unnecessary cast Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-20 19:05     ` kernel test robot
2021-11-22 17:39     ` kernel test robot
2021-11-20 13:00   ` [PATCH v2 11/20] linux/container_of.h: Cosmetic Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-20 16:12     ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-11-20 16:33       ` Joe Perches
2021-11-20 16:44         ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-11-20 13:00   ` [PATCH v2 12/20] linux/must_be.h: Add must_be() to improve readability of BUILD_BUG_ON_ZERO() Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-20 15:05     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2021-11-20 15:22       ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-11-21 13:18       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-11-20 13:00   ` [PATCH v2 13/20] Move BUILD_BUG_ON_ZERO to <linux/must_be.h> Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-20 13:00   ` [PATCH v2 13/20] linux/build_bug.h, linux/must_be.h: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-20 13:00   ` [PATCH v2 14/20] linux/compiler_types.h, linux/same_type.h: Split __same_type() to a separate header Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-21 13:26     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-11-20 13:00   ` [PATCH v2 15/20] linux/compiler.h: Implement __must_be_array() in terms of __must_be() Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-21 13:25     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-11-20 13:01   ` [PATCH v2 16/20] linux/compiler.h, linux/array_size.h: Move __must_be_array() into <linux/array_size.h> Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-21 13:24     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-11-22  8:51       ` Jani Nikula
2021-11-20 13:01   ` [PATCH v2 17/20] linux/array_size.h: Add __is_array(a) to help readability Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-21 13:22     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-11-20 13:01   ` [PATCH v2 18/20] linux/power_of_2.h: Add __IS_POWER_OF_2(n) and __IS_POWER_OF_2_OR_0(n) macros Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-21 13:20     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-11-22  8:55       ` Jani Nikula
2021-11-20 13:01   ` [PATCH v2 19/20] linux/build_bug.h, linux/power_of_2.h: Move [__]BUILD_BUG_ON_NOT_POWER_OF_2() to <linux/power_of_2.h> Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-20 13:01   ` [PATCH v2 20/20] linux/power_of_2.h: Implement [__]BUILD_BUG_ON_NOT_POWER_OF_2() in terms of __IS_POWER_OF_2[_OR_0]() Alejandro Colomar
2021-11-22 11:17   ` [PATCH v2 00/20] Add memberof(), split headers, and simplify code Andy Shevchenko
2021-11-22 12:07     ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-11-19 15:07 [PATCH 00/17] Add memberof(), split some headers, and slightly " Alexey Dobriyan
2021-11-19 15:13 ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)

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