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From: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
Cc: Daniil Stas <daniil.stas@posteo.net>,
	James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com, Jason@zx2c4.com,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	regressions@leemhuis.info, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] tpm: disable hwrng for fTPM on some AMD designs
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2023 13:51:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6a80d9e9-aec9-2cbd-d65b-bb1e84b77b2b@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wgK0Z-LrJGExwG=e=oxjD93LJhY3jMmi_2O2_Pkjf8Tsg@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/1/2023 13:42, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 at 11:28, Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> I would disable it inside tpm_crb driver, which is the driver used
>> for fTPM's: they are identified by MSFT0101 ACPI identifier.
>>
>> I think the right scope is still AMD because we don't have such
>> regressions with Intel fTPM.
> 
> I'm ok with that.
> 
>> I.e. I would move the helper I created inside tpm_crb driver, and
>> a new flag, let's say "TPM_CHIP_FLAG_HWRNG_DISABLED", which tpm_crb
>> sets before calling tpm_chip_register().
>>
>> Finally, tpm_add_hwrng() needs the following invariant:
>>
>>          if (chip->flags & TPM_CHIP_FLAG_HWRNG_DISABLED)
>>                  return 0;
>>
>> How does this sound? I can refine this quickly from my first trial.
> 
> Sounds fine.

This sounds fine by me too, thanks.

> 
> My only worry comes from my ignorance: do these fTPM devices *always*
> end up being enumerated through CRB, or do they potentially look
> "normal enough" that you can actually end up using them even without
> having that CRB driver loaded?
> 
> Put another way: is the CRB driver the _only_ way they are visible, or
> could some people hit on this through the TPM TIS interface if they
> have CRB disabled?
> 
> I see, for example, that qemu ends up emulating the TIS layer, and it
> might end up forwarding the TPM requests to something that is natively
> CRB?
> 
> But again: I don't know enough about CRB vs TIS, so the above may be a
> stupid question.
> 
>             Linus


  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-01 18:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-14 20:19 [PATCH 0/1] Avoid triggering an fTPM bug from kernel Mario Limonciello
2023-02-14 20:19 ` [PATCH 1/1] tpm: disable hwrng for fTPM on some AMD designs Mario Limonciello
2023-02-17 15:18   ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2023-02-17 22:35     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-02-18  2:25       ` Limonciello, Mario
2023-02-21 22:53         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-02-21 23:10           ` Limonciello, Mario
2023-02-27 10:57             ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2023-02-27 11:14               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-02-27 11:16                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-02-17 22:05   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-07-27 15:38   ` Daniil Stas
2023-07-27 15:42     ` Mario Limonciello
2023-07-27 16:39       ` Daniil Stas
2023-07-27 16:41         ` Mario Limonciello
2023-07-27 16:50           ` Daniil Stas
2023-07-27 16:51             ` Mario Limonciello
2023-07-27 17:05               ` Daniil Stas
2023-07-28 20:41                 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-07-28 21:01                   ` Limonciello, Mario
2023-07-28 21:38                     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-07-28 21:47                       ` Limonciello, Mario
     [not found]                   ` <CUGAV1Y993FB.1O2Q691015Z2C@seitikki>
2023-07-31 19:05                     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-07-31 19:18                       ` Limonciello, Mario
2023-07-31 19:30                         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-07-31 21:57                           ` Limonciello, Mario
2023-07-31 23:28                             ` Linus Torvalds
2023-07-31 23:40                               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2023-08-01  3:04                                 ` Mario Limonciello
2023-08-01 11:36                                   ` Mateusz Schyboll
2023-08-01 18:52                                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-08-01 18:55                                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-08-01 18:28                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-08-01 18:42                         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-01 18:51                           ` Mario Limonciello [this message]
2023-08-01 19:09                           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-08-02 23:13                             ` Jerry Snitselaar
2023-08-03  0:34                               ` Stefan Berger
2023-07-31 21:44                     ` Limonciello, Mario
2023-07-28 19:30     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-07-28 20:18       ` Daniil Stas
2023-07-31 10:14         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-07-31 10:28           ` Daniil Stas
2023-07-31 11:07             ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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