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From: Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>
To: "Ville Syrjälä" <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Matt Roper <matthew.d.roper@intel.com>, Lyude <cpaul@redhat.com>,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v4 0/6] Finally fix watermarks
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 17:41:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6cbd3f43-c337-a9e6-0f6b-cd509a45ae24@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160801114801.GM4329@intel.com>

Op 01-08-16 om 13:48 schreef Ville Syrjälä:
> On Mon, Aug 01, 2016 at 10:48:37AM +0200, Maarten Lankhorst wrote:
>> Op 29-07-16 om 22:33 schreef Matt Roper:
>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 12:39:05PM +0300, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 05:03:52PM -0700, Matt Roper wrote:
>>>>> This is completely untested (and probably horribly broken/buggy), but
>>>>> here's a quick mockup of the general approach I was thinking for
>>>>> ensuring DDB & WM's can be updated together while ensuring the
>>>>> three-step pipe flushing process is honored:
>>>>>
>>>>>         https://github.com/mattrope/kernel/commits/experimental/lyude_ddb
>>>>>
>>>>> Basically the idea is to take note of what's happening to the pipe's DDB
>>>>> allocation (shrinking, growing, unchanged, etc.) during the atomic check
>>>>> phase;
>>>> Didn't look too closely, but I think you can't actually do that unless
>>>> you lock all the crtcs whenever the number of active pipes is goind to
>>>> change. Meaning we'd essentially be back to the one-big-modeset-lock
>>>> apporach, which will cause missed flips and whanot on the other pipes.
>>>>
>>>> The alternative I think would consist of:
>>>> - make sure level 0 watermark never exceeds total_ddb_size/max_pipes,
>>>>   so that a modeset doesn't have to care about the wms for the other
>>>>   pipes not fitting in
>>> Unfortunately this part is the problem.  You might get away with doing
>>> this on SKL/KBL which only have three planes max per pipe and a large
>>> (896 block) DDB, but on BXT you have up to four planes (we don't
>>> actually enable the topmost plane in a full-featured manner just yet,
>>> but need to soon), yet the total DDB is only 512 blocks.  Sadly, the
>>> platform with more planes was given a smaller DDB...   :-(
>>> We're already in trouble because users that are running setups like 3x
>>> 4K with most/all planes in use at large sizes can't find level 0
>>> watermarks that satisfy their needs and we have to reject the whole
>>> configuration.  If we further limit each pipe's usage to total/maxpipes
>>> (i.e., 170 blocks per pipe on BXT), then we're going to hit similar
>>> issues when only driving one or two displays with with all of the planes
>>> in use, even though we should have had more DDB space to work with.
>>>
>>> I guess serious plane usage isn't too common in desktop setups today,
>>> but it's a very critical feature in the embedded world; we can't really
>>> afford to cripple plane usage further.  Unfortunately, as you point out
>>> above, this means that we have to follow the bspec's DDB allocation
>>> method, which in turn means we need to grab _all_ CRTC locks any time
>>> _any_ CRTC is being turned on or turned off which is a BKL-style way of
>>> doing things.
>> Meh, I'm running into a similar issue on vlv/chv. I don't see a way around it. :(
> Now are you hitting it w/ vlv/chv? They don't even have a shared DDB.
Not really the same, but determining what power saving levels + values to set with possibly parallel updates.

~Maarten

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-02 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-26 17:34 [PATCH v4 0/6] Finally fix watermarks Lyude
2016-07-26 17:34 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] drm/i915/skl: Add support for the SAGV, fix underrun hangs Lyude
2016-07-28 13:13   ` Matt Roper
2016-08-02 11:16   ` [v4,1/6] " Hans de Goede
2016-07-26 17:34 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] drm/i915/gen9: Only copy WM results for changed pipes to skl_hw Lyude
2016-07-26 17:34 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] drm/i915/skl: Only flush pipes when we change the ddb allocation Lyude
2016-07-28 13:14   ` Matt Roper
2016-07-26 17:34 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] drm/i915/skl: Fix extra whitespace in skl_flush_wm_values() Lyude
2016-07-26 17:34 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] drm/i915/skl: Update plane watermarks atomically during plane updates Lyude
2016-07-28 13:15   ` Matt Roper
2016-07-26 17:34 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] drm/i915/skl: Always wait for pipes to update after a flush Lyude
2016-07-29  0:03 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v4 0/6] Finally fix watermarks Matt Roper
2016-07-29  9:39   ` Ville Syrjälä
2016-07-29 18:48     ` Lyude
2016-07-29 19:26       ` Ville Syrjälä
2016-07-29 19:46         ` Lyude
2016-07-29 20:41         ` Matt Roper
2016-08-01 11:50           ` Ville Syrjälä
2016-07-29 20:33     ` Matt Roper
2016-08-01  8:48       ` Maarten Lankhorst
2016-08-01 11:48         ` Ville Syrjälä
2016-08-02 15:41           ` Maarten Lankhorst [this message]
2016-08-02 15:59             ` Ville Syrjälä

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