On Nov 24, 2017, at 9:51 AM, Andi Kleen wrote: > >> We checked old kernels, and old e2fsprogs, and didn't see any cases >> where fast (<= 60 chars) symlinks were created using external blocks. >> It seems that _something_ did create them, and it would be good to >> figure that out so we can determine if it is a widespread problem > > I assume it was the original kernel. > >> >> I think e2fsck can fix this quite easily, and there really isn't >> an easy way to revert to the old method if the large xattr feature >> is enabled. If you are willing to run a new kernel, you should also >> be willing to run a new e2fsck. > > It's obviously not enabled on ext3. > >> We could probably add a fallback to the old mechanism (and print >> a one-time warning to upgrade to a newer e2fsck) if an external fast >> symlink is found and the large xattr feature is not enabled, which >> would give more time to fix this (hopefully rare in the wild) case. > > If the old kernel created it, then likely all the > /lib{,64}/ld-linux.so.2 symlinks have that, which breaks all ELF > executables. I suspect in these old file systems it's not particularly rare. Sure, but not many people are going to be running a 4.14 kernel with a 2007 system. Could you please run the updated find command to see whether this is an isolated case, or if it is a common case: find / -type l -size -60c -print0 | xargs -0r ls -dils | awk '$2 != 0 { print }' It would also be useful if anyone else reading this that has an old system (2005-2011 install date) ran the same to see if any such symlinks are found. To see when the root filesystem was created, run: dumpe2fs -h $(df -P / | awk '/dev/ { print $1 }') 2>&1 | grep created > So I don't think you can just break them all. Sure. As previously mentioned, it shouldn't have broken *any* systems based on our prior investigation, I'm just trying to see how bad the problem really is. Like I said, a workaround (without need to patch the kernel, and that is compatible with old and new kernels) is: find / -type l -size -60c -print0 | xargs -0r ls -dils | awk '$2 != 0 { print }' | while read L; do ln -sfv "$(ls -l "$L" | sed -e 's/.*-> //')" "$L"; done This just recreates any problematic symlinks in place, which should make it a proper fast symlink. > I think it's ok to only handle it when the large xattrs are disabled. > > Requiring new e2fsck on old systems is a bad idea. Any worse an idea than running a new kernel on an old system? Newer e2fsck fixes a lot of bugs that are present in older e2fsck as well... Cheers, Andreas