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From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: mtk.manpages@gmail.com,
	Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
	linux-man <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>,
	Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Jordan Ogas <jogas@lanl.gov>,
	werner@almesberger.net, Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: pivot_root(".", ".") and the fchdir() dance
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2019 17:05:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <71cad40b-0f9f-24de-b650-8bc4fce78fa8@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cc21557f-1568-68c3-e322-47ceb52fdf53@gmail.com>

Hello Eric,

A ping on my question below. Could you take a look please?

Thanks,

Michael

>>>> The concern from our conversation at the container mini-summit was that
>>>> there is a pathology if in your initial mount namespace all of the
>>>> mounts are marked MS_SHARED like systemd does (and is almost necessary
>>>> if you are going to use mount propagation), that if new_root itself
>>>> is MS_SHARED then unmounting the old_root could propagate.
>>>>
>>>> So I believe the desired sequence is:
>>>>
>>>>>>>            chdir(new_root);
>>>> +++            mount("", ".", MS_SLAVE | MS_REC, NULL);
>>>>>>>            pivot_root(".", ".");
>>>>>>>            umount2(".", MNT_DETACH);
>>>>
>>>> The change to new new_root could be either MS_SLAVE or MS_PRIVATE.  So
>>>> long as it is not MS_SHARED the mount won't propagate back to the
>>>> parent mount namespace.
>>>
>>> Thanks. I made that change.
>>
>> For what it is worth.  The sequence above without the change in mount
>> attributes will fail if it is necessary to change the mount attributes
>> as "." is both put_old as well as new_root.
>>
>> When I initially suggested the change I saw "." was new_root and forgot
>> "." was also put_old.  So I thought there was a silent danger without
>> that sequence.
> 
> So, now I am a little confused by the comments you added here. Do you
> now mean that the 
> 
> mount("", ".", MS_SLAVE | MS_REC, NULL);
> 
> call is not actually necessary?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Michael
> 


-- 
Michael Kerrisk
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  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-28 15:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-01 13:38 pivot_root(".", ".") and the fchdir() dance Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2019-08-05 10:36 ` Aleksa Sarai
2019-08-05 12:29   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2019-08-05 13:37     ` Aleksa Sarai
2019-08-06 19:35       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2019-08-06  8:12     ` Philipp Wendler
2019-08-06 12:03       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2019-09-09 10:40         ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-09 14:48           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2019-09-09 23:40             ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-10 10:27               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2019-09-10 11:15                 ` Christian Brauner
2019-09-10 11:21                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2019-09-10 23:06                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-15  8:12                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2019-09-15 18:17                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-23 11:10                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2019-09-28 15:05                             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) [this message]
2019-09-30 11:42                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-10-07 11:02                                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2019-10-07 15:46                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-10-08 14:27                                     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2019-10-08 19:40                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-10-08 21:40                                         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2019-10-08 22:16                                           ` Eric W. Biederman

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