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From: Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com>
To: Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Cc: freude@de.ibm.com, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com,
	heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com, borntraeger@de.ibm.com,
	cohuck@redhat.com, kwankhede@nvidia.com,
	bjsdjshi@linux.vnet.ibm.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	alex.williamson@redhat.com, pmorel@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	alifm@linux.vnet.ibm.com, mjrosato@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	jjherne@linux.vnet.ibm.com, thuth@redhat.com,
	pasic@linux.vnet.ibm.com, berrange@redhat.com,
	fiuczy@linux.vnet.ibm.com, buendgen@de.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 11/13] KVM: s390: implement mediated device open callback
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 14:19:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <736a1346-f81a-7f71-7d13-38729ff78e4f@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0f37dc39-7355-19e5-40c9-a02a1ea58c2d@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On 30/05/2018 16:33, Tony Krowiak wrote:
> On 05/24/2018 05:08 AM, Pierre Morel wrote:
>> On 23/05/2018 16:45, Tony Krowiak wrote:
>>> On 05/16/2018 04:03 AM, Pierre Morel wrote:
>>>> On 07/05/2018 17:11, Tony Krowiak wrote:
>>>>> Implements the open callback on the mediated matrix device.
>>>>> The function registers a group notifier to receive notification
>>>>> of the VFIO_GROUP_NOTIFY_SET_KVM event. When notified,
>>>>> the vfio_ap device driver will get access to the guest's
>>>>> kvm structure. With access to this structure the driver will:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Ensure that only one mediated device is opened for the guest
>>
>> You should explain why.
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Configure access to the AP devices for the guest.
>>>>>
>> ...snip...
>>>>> +void kvm_ap_refcount_inc(struct kvm *kvm)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> +    atomic_inc(&kvm->arch.crypto.aprefs);
>>>>> +}
>>>>> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(kvm_ap_refcount_inc);
>>>>> +
>>>>> +void kvm_ap_refcount_dec(struct kvm *kvm)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> +    atomic_dec(&kvm->arch.crypto.aprefs);
>>>>> +}
>>>>> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(kvm_ap_refcount_dec);
>>>>
>>>> Why are these functions inside kvm-ap ?
>>>> Will anyone use this outer of vfio-ap ?
>>>
>>> As I've stated before, I made the choice to contain all interfaces that
>>> access KVM in kvm-ap because I don't think it is appropriate for the 
>>> device
>>> driver to have to have "knowledge" of the inner workings of KVM. Why 
>>> does
>>> it matter whether any entity outside of the vfio_ap device driver calls
>>> these functions? I could ask a similar question if the interfaces were
>>> contained in vfio-ap; what if another device driver needs access to 
>>> these
>>> interfaces?
>>
>> This is very driver specific and only used during initialization.
>> It is not a common property of the cryptographic interface.
>>
>> I really think you should handle this inside the driver.
>
> We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Is it not possible
> that future drivers - e.g., when full virtualization is implemented - 
> will
> require access to KVM?

I do not think that an access to KVM is required for full virtualization.


-- 
Pierre Morel
Linux/KVM/QEMU in Böblingen - Germany

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-05 12:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-07 15:11 [PATCH v5 00/13] s390: vfio-ap: guest dedicated crypto adapters Tony Krowiak
2018-05-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 01/13] KVM: s390: Interface to test whether APXA installed Tony Krowiak
2018-05-16 10:21   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-05-16 10:45     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-17  9:11       ` Harald Freudenberger
2018-05-17  9:44         ` Cornelia Huck
2018-05-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 02/13] KVM: s390: refactor crypto initialization Tony Krowiak
2018-05-16  8:51   ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-16 11:14     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-16 12:17       ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-16 12:21         ` Cornelia Huck
2018-05-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 03/13] KVM: s390: CPU model support for AP virtualization Tony Krowiak
2018-05-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 04/13] s390: vfio-ap: base implementation of VFIO AP device driver Tony Krowiak
2018-05-16  8:21   ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-16 11:29     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-16 11:45     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-07  8:57   ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-13  7:41   ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-13  7:48     ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-13 10:54       ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-13 11:14         ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-13 12:01           ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-13 12:12             ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-13 12:16               ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-14 13:04                 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 05/13] s390: vfio-ap: register matrix device with VFIO mdev framework Tony Krowiak
2018-05-11 17:18   ` Halil Pasic
2018-05-14 19:42     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-15 14:17       ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-15 15:16         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-15 15:48           ` Halil Pasic
2018-05-15 16:11             ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-17  7:44       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-05-21 15:13         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-22  8:19           ` Cornelia Huck
2018-05-22 21:41             ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-16 10:42   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-05-16 12:48     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-16 12:58     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 06/13] KVM: s390: interfaces to manage guest's AP matrix Tony Krowiak
2018-05-11 16:08   ` Halil Pasic
2018-05-16 14:29     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-16 14:41       ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-21 15:23         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-15 14:55   ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-15 16:07     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-16  7:48       ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-16 13:12         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-16 13:15           ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-16 13:48             ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-18  8:55               ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-23 14:29                 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-24  7:46                   ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 07/13] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interfaces to configure adapters Tony Krowiak
2018-05-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 08/13] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interfaces to configure domains Tony Krowiak
2018-05-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 09/13] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interfaces to configure control domains Tony Krowiak
2018-05-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 10/13] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interface to view matrix mdev matrix Tony Krowiak
2018-05-16  7:55   ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-23 14:38     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-24  9:10       ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-30 14:28         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-05 12:40           ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-06 14:24             ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-06 15:10               ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-07 12:53                 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-07 13:16                   ` Halil Pasic
2018-06-07 14:33                     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 11/13] KVM: s390: implement mediated device open callback Tony Krowiak
2018-05-16  8:03   ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-23 14:45     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-24  9:08       ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-30 14:33         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-05 12:19           ` Pierre Morel [this message]
2018-06-06 14:28             ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-06 16:08               ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-06 17:40                 ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-07 13:54                   ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-07 15:20                     ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-07 16:30                       ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-07 17:15                         ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-08 21:59                           ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-11  9:23                             ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-11 11:32                               ` Halil Pasic
2018-06-11 11:49                                 ` Janosch Frank
2018-06-11 16:26                                   ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-11 16:50                                     ` Halil Pasic
2018-06-11 16:54                                       ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-11 12:50                                 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-11 12:56                               ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-07 13:52                 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 12/13] s390: vfio-ap: implement VFIO_DEVICE_GET_INFO ioctl Tony Krowiak
2018-05-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 13/13] s390: doc: detailed specifications for AP virtualization Tony Krowiak

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