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From: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>,
	alex.williamson@redhat.com, cohuck@redhat.com,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	liranl@nvidia.com, oren@nvidia.com, tzahio@nvidia.com,
	leonro@nvidia.com, yarong@nvidia.com, aviadye@nvidia.com,
	shahafs@nvidia.com, artemp@nvidia.com, kwankhede@nvidia.com,
	ACurrid@nvidia.com, cjia@nvidia.com, yishaih@nvidia.com,
	mjrosato@linux.ibm.com, hch@lst.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/9] vfio/pci: export nvlink2 support into vendor vfio_pci drivers
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 18:54:09 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <73c99da0-6624-7aa2-2857-ef68092c0d07@ozlabs.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210311020056.GI2356281@nvidia.com>



On 11/03/2021 13:00, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 12:42:56PM +1100, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
>>>> btw can the id list have only vendor ids and not have device ids?
>>>
>>> The PCI matcher is quite flexable, see the other patch from Max for
>>> the igd
>>   
>> ah cool, do this for NVIDIA GPUs then please, I just discovered another P9
>> system sold with NVIDIA T4s which is not in your list.
> 
> I think it will make things easier down the road if you maintain an
> exact list <shrug>


Then why do not you do the exact list for Intel IGD? The commit log does 
not explain this detail.


>>> But best practice is to be as narrow as possible as I hope this will
>>> eventually impact module autoloading and other details.
>>
>> The amount of device specific knowledge is too little to tie it up to device
>> ids, it is a generic PCI driver with quirks. We do not have a separate
>> drivers for the hardware which requires quirks.
> 
> It provides its own capability structure exposed to userspace, that is
> absolutely not a "quirk"
> 
>> And how do you hope this should impact autoloading?
> 
> I would like to autoload the most specific vfio driver for the target
> hardware.


Is there an idea how it is going to work? For example, the Intel IGD 
driver and vfio-pci-igd - how should the system pick one? If there is no 
MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE in vfio-pci-xxx, is the user supposed to try binding 
all vfio-pci-xxx drivers until some binds?


> If you someday need to support new GPU HW that needs a different VFIO
> driver then you are really stuck because things become indeterminate
> if there are two devices claiming the ID. We don't have the concept of
> "best match", driver core works on exact match.



-- 
Alexey

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-11  7:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-09  8:33 [PATCH v3 0/9] Introduce vfio-pci-core subsystem Max Gurtovoy
2021-03-09  8:33 ` [PATCH 1/9] vfio-pci: rename vfio_pci.c to vfio_pci_core.c Max Gurtovoy
2021-03-09  8:33 ` [PATCH 2/9] vfio-pci: rename vfio_pci_private.h to vfio_pci_core.h Max Gurtovoy
2021-03-09  8:33 ` [PATCH 3/9] vfio-pci: rename vfio_pci_device to vfio_pci_core_device Max Gurtovoy
2021-03-09  8:33 ` [PATCH 4/9] vfio-pci: introduce vfio_pci_core subsystem driver Max Gurtovoy
2021-03-09  8:33 ` [PATCH 5/9] vfio/pci: introduce vfio_pci_device structure Max Gurtovoy
2021-03-09  8:33 ` [PATCH 6/9] vfio-pci-core: export vfio_pci_register_dev_region function Max Gurtovoy
2021-03-09  8:33 ` [PATCH 7/9] vfio/pci_core: split nvlink2 to nvlink2gpu and npu2 Max Gurtovoy
2021-03-10  8:08   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-09  8:33 ` [PATCH 8/9] vfio/pci: export nvlink2 support into vendor vfio_pci drivers Max Gurtovoy
2021-03-10  6:39   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-03-10 12:57     ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-03-10 13:02       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-10 14:24         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-03-10 19:40           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-11  1:20             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-03-11  1:34               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-11  1:42                 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-03-11  2:00                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-11  7:54                     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy [this message]
2021-03-11  9:44                       ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-03-11 16:51                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 17:01                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-10 14:19       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-03-11  1:10         ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-03-19 15:23       ` Alex Williamson
2021-03-19 16:17         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-19 16:20           ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-19 16:28             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-19 16:34               ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-19 17:36                 ` Alex Williamson
2021-03-19 20:07                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-19 21:08                     ` Alex Williamson
2021-03-19 22:59                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-20  4:40                         ` Alex Williamson
2021-03-21 12:58                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-22 16:40                             ` Alex Williamson
2021-03-23 19:32                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-24  2:39                                 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-03-29 23:10                                 ` Alex Williamson
2021-04-01 13:04                                   ` Cornelia Huck
2021-04-01 13:12                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-01 21:49                                     ` Alex Williamson
2021-03-22 15:11                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-22 16:44                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-23 13:17                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-23 13:42                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-09  8:33 ` [PATCH 9/9] vfio/pci: export igd support into vendor vfio_pci driver Max Gurtovoy
2021-03-10  8:15   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-10 12:31     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 11:37       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-11 12:09         ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-03-11 15:43         ` Jason Gunthorpe

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