From: Brice Goglin <brice.goglin@gmail.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/3] create sysfs representation of ACPI HMAT
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 10:19:29 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <74a585de-c825-b568-ee14-c8799b9d6238@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171230065845.GD27959@bombadil.infradead.org>
Le 30/12/2017 à 07:58, Matthew Wilcox a écrit :
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 10:10:34AM +0100, Brice Goglin wrote:
>>> Perhaps we can enlist /proc/iomem or a similar enumeration interface
>>> to tell userspace the NUMA node and whether the kernel thinks it has
>>> better or worse performance characteristics relative to base
>>> system-RAM, i.e. new IORES_DESC_* values. I'm worried that if we start
>>> publishing absolute numbers in sysfs userspace will default to looking
>>> for specific magic numbers in sysfs vs asking the kernel for memory
>>> that has performance characteristics relative to base "System RAM". In
>>> other words the absolute performance information that the HMAT
>>> publishes is useful to the kernel, but it's not clear that userspace
>>> needs that vs a relative indicator for making NUMA node preference
>>> decisions.
>> Some HPC users will benchmark the machine to discovery actual
>> performance numbers anyway.
>> However, most users won't do this. They will want to know relative
>> performance of different nodes. If you normalize HMAT values by dividing
>> them with system-RAM values, that's likely OK. If you just say "that
>> node is faster than system RAM", it's not precise enough.
> So "this memory has 800% bandwidth of normal" and "this memory has 70%
> bandwidth of normal"?
I guess that would work.
Brice
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-12-30 9:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-12-14 2:10 [PATCH v3 0/3] create sysfs representation of ACPI HMAT Ross Zwisler
2017-12-14 2:10 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] acpi: HMAT support in acpi_parse_entries_array() Ross Zwisler
2017-12-15 0:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-12-15 1:10 ` Dan Williams
2017-12-16 1:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-12-16 1:57 ` Dan Williams
2017-12-16 2:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-12-14 2:10 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] hmat: add heterogeneous memory sysfs support Ross Zwisler
2017-12-15 0:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-12-15 20:53 ` Ross Zwisler
2017-12-14 2:10 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] hmat: add performance attributes Ross Zwisler
2017-12-14 13:00 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] create sysfs representation of ACPI HMAT Michal Hocko
2017-12-18 20:35 ` Ross Zwisler
2017-12-20 16:41 ` Ross Zwisler
2017-12-21 13:18 ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-20 18:19 ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-12-20 20:22 ` Dave Hansen
2017-12-20 21:16 ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-12-20 21:24 ` Ross Zwisler
2017-12-20 22:29 ` Dan Williams
2017-12-20 22:41 ` Ross Zwisler
2017-12-21 20:31 ` Brice Goglin
2017-12-22 22:53 ` Dan Williams
2017-12-22 23:22 ` Ross Zwisler
2017-12-22 23:57 ` Dan Williams
2017-12-23 1:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-12-27 9:10 ` Brice Goglin
2017-12-30 6:58 ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-12-30 9:19 ` Brice Goglin [this message]
2017-12-20 21:13 ` Ross Zwisler
2017-12-21 1:41 ` Elliott, Robert (Persistent Memory)
2017-12-22 21:46 ` Ross Zwisler
2017-12-21 12:50 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-12-22 3:09 ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-12-22 10:31 ` Kogut, Jaroslaw
2017-12-22 14:37 ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-12-22 17:13 ` Dave Hansen
2017-12-23 5:14 ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-12-22 22:13 ` Ross Zwisler
2017-12-23 6:56 ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-12-22 22:31 ` Ross Zwisler
2017-12-25 2:05 ` Liubo(OS Lab)
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