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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Felipe Balbi <balbi@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Chen <hzpeterchen@gmail.com>, Leo Li <pku.leo@gmail.com>,
	Grygorii Strashko <grygorii.strashko@ti.com>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Yoshihiro Shimoda <yoshihiro.shimoda.uh@renesas.com>,
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	Sekhar Nori <nsekhar@ti.com>, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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	Scott Wood <oss@buserror.net>,
	David Fisher <david.fisher1@synopsys.com>,
	"Thang Q. Nguyen" <tqnguyen@apm.com>,
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	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] usb: dwc3: host: inherit dma configuration from parent dev
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2016 14:46:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7818609.ZAbFcr85D0@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r38uhalt.fsf@linux.intel.com>

On Thursday, September 8, 2016 2:52:46 PM CEST Felipe Balbi wrote:
> Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> writes:
> >> If we make dwc3.ko a library which glue calls directly then all these
> >> problems are solved but we break all current DTs and fall into the trap
> >> of having another MUSB.
> >
> > I don't see how we'd break the current DTs, I'm fairly sure we could turn dwc3
> 
> well, at a minimum dwc3-{pci,exynos,st,omap,of-simple}.c would have to
> look at possible children for their own quirks and properties.
> 
> > into a library without changing the DT representation. However the parts
> > that I think would change are
> >
> > - The sysfs representation for dwc3-pci, as we would no longer have
> >   a parent-child relationship there.
> 
> that's a no-brainer, I think
> 
> > - The power management handling might need a rework, since you currently
> >   rely on the hierarchy between dwc3-pci, dwc3 and xhci for turning
> >   power on and off
> 
> simple enough to do as well.
> 
> > - turning dwc3 into a library probably implies also turning xhci into
> >   a library, in part for consistency.
> 
> yeah, I considered that too. We could still do it in parts, though.
> 
> > - if we don't do the whole usb_bus->sysdev thing, we need to not just
> >   do this for dwc3 but also chipidea and maybe a couple of others.
> 
> MUSB comes to mind

Right.

> > There should not be any show-stoppers here, but it's a lot of work.
> 
> I think the biggest work will making sure people don't abuse functions
> just because they're now part of a single binary. Having them as
> separate modules helped a lot reducing the maintenance overhead. There
> was only one occasion where someone sent a glue layer which iterated
> over its children to find struct dwc3 * from child's drvdata.

This is where it get a bit philosophical ;-)

I understand that you like the strict separation that the current model
provides, and I agree that can be an advantage.

Changing the abstraction model to a set of library modules the way that
other drivers (e.g. ehci, sdhci, or libata) work to me means changing
this separation model into a different model and once we do that I would
not consider it a mistake for the platform specific driver to take
advantage of that. You still get a bit of separation since the drivers
would be in separate modules that can only access exported symbols,
and the library can still hide its data structures (to some degree).

I still think that turning xhci (and dwc3) into a library would be
an overall win, but if we solve the problems of DMA settings and
usb_device DT properties without it, I'd prefer not to fight over
that with you again ;-)

> >> If we try to pass DMA bits from parent to child, then we have the fact
> >> that DT ends up, in practice, always having a parent device.
> >
> > I don't understand what you mean here, but I agree that the various ways
> 
> well, we can't simply use what I pointed out a few emails back:
> 
> if (dwc->dev->parent)
> 	dwc->sysdev = dwc->dev->parent
> else
> 	dwc->sysdev = dwc->dev

Ok, I see.

> > we discussed for copying the DMA flags from one 'struct device' to another
> > all turned out to be flawed in at least one way.
> >
> > Do you see any problems with the patch I posted other than the ugliness
> > of the dwc3 and xhci drivers finding out which pointer to use for
> > usb_bus->sysdev? If we can solve this, we shouldn't need any new
> > of_dma_configure/acpi_dma_configure calls and we won't have to
> > turn the drivers into a library, so maybe let's try to come up with
> > better ideas for that sub-problem.
> 
> No big problems with that, no. Just the ifdef looking for a PCI bus in
> the parent. How about passing a flag via device_properties? I don't
> wanna change dwc3 core's device name with a platform_device_id because
> there probably already are scripts relying on the names to enable
> pm_runtime for example.

Sounds ok to me. Grygorii's solution might a be a bit more elegant,
but also a bit more error-prone:
If we get a platform that mistakenly sets the dma_mask pointer of
the child device, or a platform that does not set the dma_mask
pointer of the parent, things break.

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-08 12:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-25 19:21 [PATCH] usb: dwc3: host: inherit dma configuration from parent dev Grygorii Strashko
2016-04-26  6:17 ` Felipe Balbi
2016-04-26  8:14   ` Grygorii Strashko
2016-04-27  5:41     ` Felipe Balbi
2016-04-27 11:55       ` Grygorii Strashko
2016-04-27 13:59       ` Catalin Marinas
2016-04-27 14:11         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-04-27 15:50           ` Catalin Marinas
2016-04-27 16:04             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-04-27 16:53               ` Felipe Balbi
2016-04-27 17:42                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-04-27 17:59                   ` Alan Stern
2016-04-27 18:08                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-04-27 20:05                       ` Felipe Balbi
2016-04-27 21:05                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-04-28  6:37                           ` Felipe Balbi
2016-04-28 14:16                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-04-28 14:23                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-04-28 14:27                                 ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-01 22:14                                   ` Leo Li
2016-09-02 10:43                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-02 10:47                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-09-02 11:08                                         ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-02 14:11                                           ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-02 14:21                                           ` Alan Stern
2016-09-02 15:51                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-07  7:17                                               ` Roger Quadros
2016-09-07  8:29                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-07 13:04                                                   ` Roger Quadros
2016-09-07 14:38                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-02 16:23                                           ` Grygorii Strashko
2016-09-02 10:53                                       ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-02 11:55                                         ` Robin Murphy
2016-09-02 12:56                                           ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-02 13:10                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-02 22:16                                       ` Leo Li
2016-09-05 15:39                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-06  6:35                                           ` Peter Chen
2016-09-06  6:40                                             ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-06 10:46                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-06 10:50                                                 ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-06 13:27                                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-07  6:51                                                     ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-07  7:44                                                     ` Peter Chen
2016-09-07  8:52                                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-07  9:29                                                         ` Peter Chen
2016-09-07  9:35                                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-09-07 10:18                                                             ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-06 10:38                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-07  6:33                                               ` Peter Chen
2016-09-07  8:48                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-07  9:55                                                   ` Peter Chen
2016-09-07 10:33                                                     ` Robin Murphy
2016-09-07 10:47                                                       ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-14 16:31                                                         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2016-09-14 21:50                                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-07 10:24                                                   ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-07 15:24                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-07 16:08                                                       ` Alan Stern
2016-09-07 19:45                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-08  1:15                                                       ` Peter Chen
2016-09-08  8:02                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-08  8:03                                                       ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-08  8:26                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-08  8:29                                                           ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-08  8:45                                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-08  9:43                                                               ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-08 10:17                                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-08 11:00                                                                   ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-08 11:11                                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-08 11:20                                                                       ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-08 11:39                                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-08 11:52                                                                           ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-08 12:46                                                                             ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2016-09-08 12:02                                                                     ` Grygorii Strashko
2016-09-08 12:14                                                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-08 12:28                                                                   ` Peter Chen
2016-09-08 12:52                                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-09  1:37                                                                       ` Peter Chen
2016-09-08 12:59                                                                     ` Grygorii Strashko
2016-09-09  1:52                                                                       ` Peter Chen
2016-09-21 11:06                                                       ` Sriram Dash
2016-09-21 11:31                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-21 11:43                                                           ` Sriram Dash
2016-09-21 12:48                                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-22  5:02                                                               ` Sriram Dash
2016-10-07 22:46                                                                 ` Leo Li
2016-09-21 17:14                                                             ` [PATCH] usb: xhci: Fix the patch inherit dma configuration from kbuild test robot
2016-04-27 20:57                   ` [PATCH] usb: dwc3: host: inherit dma configuration from parent dev Felipe Balbi
2016-04-27 14:14         ` Grygorii Strashko
2016-05-05 17:07 ` Brian Norris

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