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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Anshuman Khandual <khandual@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	aik@ozlabs.ru, robh@kernel.org, joe@perches.com,
	elfring@users.sourceforge.net, david@gibson.dropbear.id.au,
	jasowang@redhat.com, mpe@ellerman.id.au, linuxram@us.ibm.com,
	haren@linux.vnet.ibm.com, paulus@samba.org,
	srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com, robin.murphy@arm.com,
	jean-philippe.brucker@arm.com, marc.zyngier@arm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/4] Virtio uses DMA API for all devices
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2018 12:00:47 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7995ee537c416e30d0aac57042cb36f84c6edef9.camel@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98eb367ce322ad84baa31e3c7beffc4a42be8458.camel@kernel.crashing.org>

On Thu, 2018-08-09 at 08:13 +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > For completeness, virtio could also have its own bounce buffer
> > outside of DMA API one. I don't see lots of benefits to this
> > though.
> 
> Not fan of that either...

To elaborate a bit ...

For our secure VMs, we will need bounce buffering for everything
anyway. virtio, emulated PCI, or vfio.

By ensuring that we create an identity mapping in the IOMMU for
the bounce buffering pool, we enable virtio "legacy/direct" to
use the same mapping ops as things using the iommu.

That said, we still need somewhere in arch/powerpc a set of dma
ops which we'll attach to all PCI devices of a secure VM to force
bouncing always, rather than just based on address (which is what
the standard swiotlb ones do)... Unless we can tweak the swiotlb
"threshold" for example by using an empty mask.

We'll need the same set of DMA ops for VIO devices too, not just PCI.

Cheers,
Ben.



  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-09  2:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-20  3:59 [RFC 0/4] Virtio uses DMA API for all devices Anshuman Khandual
2018-07-20  3:59 ` [RFC 1/4] virtio: Define virtio_direct_dma_ops structure Anshuman Khandual
2018-07-30  9:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-31  4:01     ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-07-20  3:59 ` [RFC 2/4] virtio: Override device's DMA OPS with virtio_direct_dma_ops selectively Anshuman Khandual
2018-07-28  8:56   ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-07-28 21:16     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-07-30  4:15       ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-07-30  9:30       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-31  6:39         ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-07-30  9:25   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-31  7:00     ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-07-20  3:59 ` [RFC 3/4] virtio: Force virtio core to use DMA API callbacks for all virtio devices Anshuman Khandual
2018-07-20  3:59 ` [RFC 4/4] virtio: Add platform specific DMA API translation for virito devices Anshuman Khandual
2018-07-20 13:15   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-07-23  2:16     ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-07-25  4:30       ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-07-25 13:31       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-07-20 13:16 ` [RFC 0/4] Virtio uses DMA API for all devices Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-07-23  6:28   ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-07-23  9:08     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-07-25  3:26       ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-07-27 11:31         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-07-28  8:37           ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-07-27  9:58 ` Will Deacon
2018-07-27 10:58   ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-07-30  9:34   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-30 10:28     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-07-30 11:18       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-30 13:26         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-07-31 17:30           ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-31 20:36             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-01  8:16               ` Will Deacon
2018-08-01  8:36                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-01  9:05                   ` Will Deacon
2018-08-01 22:41                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-01 22:35                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-02 15:24                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-02 15:41                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-02 16:01                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-02 17:19                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-02 17:53                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-02 20:52                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-02 21:13                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-02 21:51                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-03  7:05                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-03 15:58                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-03 16:02                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-03 18:58                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-04  8:21                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-05  1:10                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-05  7:29                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-05 21:16                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-05 21:30                                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-06  9:42                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-06 19:52                                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-07  6:21                                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-07  6:42                                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-07 13:55                                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-07 20:32                                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-08  6:31                                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-08 10:07                                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-08 12:30                                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-08 13:18                                                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-08 20:31                                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-08 22:13                                                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-09  2:00                                                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2018-08-09  5:40                                                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-09-07  0:09                                                                           ` Jiandi An
2018-09-10  6:19                                                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-09-10  8:53                                                                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-08-03 19:07                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-04  1:11                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-04  1:16                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-05  0:22                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-05  4:52                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-06 13:46                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-06 19:56                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-06 20:35                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-06 21:26                                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-06 21:46                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-06 22:13                                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-06 23:16                                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-06 23:45                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-07  0:18                                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-07  6:32                                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-07  6:27                                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-07  6:44                                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-07  6:18                                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-07  6:16                                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-06 23:18                                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-07  6:12                                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-04  1:18                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-04  1:22                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-05  0:23                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-03 19:17                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-04  8:15                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-05  0:09                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-05  1:11                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-05  7:25                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-05  0:53                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-05  0:27                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-06 14:05                   ` Will Deacon
2018-08-01 21:56               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-02 15:33                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-02 20:53                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-03  7:06                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-02 20:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-03  2:41   ` Jason Wang
2018-08-03 19:08     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-04  1:21       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-05  0:24         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-06  9:02           ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-08-06 13:36             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-06 15:24               ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-06 16:06                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-06 16:10                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-06 16:13                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-06 16:34                       ` Christoph Hellwig

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