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From: Karim Yaghmour <karim.yaghmour@opersys.com>
To: Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>, joel@joelfernandes.org
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	qais.yousef@arm.com, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
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	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Guenter Roeck <groeck@chromium.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	kernel-team@android.com, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-trace-devel@vger.kernel.org,
	Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>,
	mhiramat@kernel.org, Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/3] Provide in-kernel headers to make extending kernel easier
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2019 16:52:18 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <79b6bdbc-890a-5a51-7fa1-aec57889046a@opersys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOesGMheoZda84OSz9spQ7p66wot5S_9aaqaKC=QYp+8utASXA@mail.gmail.com>


Hi Olof,

On 4/8/19 12:29 PM, Olof Johansson wrote:
> Sorry to be late at the party with this kind of feedback, but I find
> the whole ".tar.gz in procfs" to be an awkward solution, especially if
> there's expected to be userspace tooling that depends on this
> long-term.
> 
> Wouldn't it be more convenient to provide it in a standardized format
> such that you won't have to take an additional step, and always have
> it in a known location?
> 
> Something like:
> 
>   - Pseudo-filesystem, that can just be mounted under
> /sys/kernel/headers or something (similar to debugfs or
> /proc/device-tree).
>   - Exporting something like a squashfs image instead, allowing
> loopback mounting of it (or by providing a pseudo-/dev entry for it),
> again allowing direct export of the contents and avoiding the
> extracted directory from being out of sync with currently running
> kernel.
> 
> Having to copy and extract the tarball is the most awkward step, IMHO.
> I also find the waste of kernel memory for it to be an issue, but
> given that it can be built as a module I guess that's the obvious
> solution for those who care about memory consumption.

One of the things I pointed out earlier in the thread is that 
/proc/config.gz has already set a precedent as to the interface for this 
sort of artifact. It's a plain compressed file and it's directly 
accessible from toplevel /proc. From a consistency perspective there's 
an idiomatic angle to some sort of "/proc/kheaders.gz".

In some offline discussions I was also told that squashfs (I'm no expert 
of it) required special user-space tools and had some security issues.

Cheers,

-- 
Karim Yaghmour
CEO - Opersys inc. / www.opersys.com
http://twitter.com/karimyaghmour

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-04-08 20:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-20 16:31 [PATCH v5 1/3] Provide in-kernel headers to make extending kernel easier Joel Fernandes (Google)
2019-03-20 16:31 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] Add selftests for module build using in-kernel headers Joel Fernandes (Google)
2019-03-20 16:31 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] init/config: Do not select BUILD_BIN2C for IKCONFIG Joel Fernandes (Google)
2019-03-20 18:31 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] Provide in-kernel headers to make extending kernel easier Andrew Morton
2019-03-20 19:42   ` Joel Fernandes
2019-04-08 16:29 ` Olof Johansson
2019-04-08 16:37   ` Daniel Colascione
2019-04-08 16:53     ` Olof Johansson
2019-04-08 20:36   ` Joel Fernandes
2019-04-10 15:07     ` Olof Johansson
2019-04-10 15:50       ` Joel Fernandes
2019-04-10 16:34         ` Olof Johansson
2019-04-10 17:33           ` Joel Fernandes
2019-04-10 17:35           ` Daniel Colascione
2019-04-11  3:15           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-04-11 16:30             ` Joel Fernandes
2019-04-14 19:38             ` Olof Johansson
2019-04-15  9:41               ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2019-04-15 13:52                 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-04-15 14:05               ` Joel Fernandes
2019-04-15 14:41               ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-16  3:50                 ` Kees Cook
2019-04-16 12:33                   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-16 12:49                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-04-16 13:04                       ` Joel Fernandes
2019-04-16 13:32                         ` Karim Yaghmour
2019-04-16 13:45                           ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-16 14:21                             ` Joel Fernandes
2019-04-16 14:22                             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-04-16 14:43                               ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-16 16:42                                 ` Olof Johansson
2019-04-16 16:46                               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-04-16 16:57                                 ` Olof Johansson
2019-04-16 17:22                                   ` Joel Fernandes
2019-04-16 17:30                                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-04-16 16:47                           ` Olof Johansson
2019-04-10 19:19       ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-04-12 16:16         ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2019-04-12 17:25           ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-08 20:52   ` Karim Yaghmour [this message]
2019-04-10 15:15     ` Olof Johansson
2019-04-10 15:44       ` Daniel Colascione

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