From: Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
kirill@shutemov.name, hughd@google.com, aaron.lu@intel.com,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: thp: remove use_zero_page sysfs knob
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 14:49:34 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7d96258c-2973-2df5-08d4-828875058be1@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1807231427550.103523@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
On 7/23/18 2:33 PM, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, David Rientjes wrote:
>
>>>> The huge zero page can be reclaimed under memory pressure and, if it is,
>>>> it is attempted to be allocted again with gfp flags that attempt memory
>>>> compaction that can become expensive. If we are constantly under memory
>>>> pressure, it gets freed and reallocated millions of times always trying to
>>>> compact memory both directly and by kicking kcompactd in the background.
>>>>
>>>> It likely should also be per node.
>>> Have you benchmarked making the non-huge zero page per-node?
>>>
>> Not since we disable it :) I will, though. The more concerning issue for
>> us, modulo CVE-2017-1000405, is the cpu cost of constantly directly
>> compacting memory for allocating the hzp in real time after it has been
>> reclaimed. We've observed this happening tens or hundreds of thousands
>> of times on some systems. It will be 2MB per node on x86 if the data
>> suggests we should make it NUMA aware, I don't think the cost is too high
>> to leave it persistently available even under memory pressure if
>> use_zero_page is enabled.
>>
> Measuring access latency to 4GB of memory on Naples I observe ~6.7%
> slower access latency intrasocket and ~14% slower intersocket.
>
> use_zero_page is currently a simple thp flag, meaning it rejects writes
> where val != !!val, so perhaps it would be best to overload it with
> additional options? I can imagine 0x2 defining persistent allocation so
> that the hzp is not freed when the refcount goes to 0 and 0x4 defining if
> the hzp should be per node. Implementing persistent allocation fixes our
> concern with it, so I'd like to start there. Comments?
Sounds worth trying to me :-) It might be worth making it persistent by
default. Keeping 2MB memory unreclaimable sounds not harmful for the use
case which prefer to use THP.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-23 21:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-07-20 18:13 [PATCH] mm: thp: remove use_zero_page sysfs knob Yang Shi
2018-07-20 19:32 ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-20 20:02 ` David Rientjes
2018-07-20 20:37 ` Yang Shi
2018-07-20 21:05 ` David Rientjes
2018-07-20 23:49 ` Yang Shi
2018-07-22 3:51 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-07-23 20:28 ` David Rientjes
2018-07-23 21:33 ` David Rientjes
2018-07-23 21:49 ` Yang Shi [this message]
2018-07-24 9:08 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-24 20:32 ` David Rientjes
2018-07-20 21:06 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-20 23:51 ` Yang Shi
2018-07-23 20:31 ` David Rientjes
2018-07-23 21:52 ` Yang Shi
2018-07-23 23:14 ` David Rientjes
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