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From: Alex Bligh - linux-kernel <linux-kernel@alex.org.uk>
To: Kurt Roeckx <Q@ping.be>,
	Alex Bligh - linux-kernel <linux-kernel@alex.org.uk>
Cc: Riley Williams <rhw@MemAlpha.cx>, Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alex Bligh - linux-kernel <linux-kernel@alex.org.uk>
Subject: Re: PROBLEM: Linux updates RTC secretly when clock synchronizes
Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 01:15:29 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <814537660.1005095728@[195.224.237.69]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011107020137.A1887@ping.be>
In-Reply-To: <20011107020137.A1887@ping.be>

>> >  2. The kernel makes no internal reference to the /dev/rtc driver,
>> >     and it is left to userland tools to sync to the RTC on boot,
>> >     and at other times as required.
>>
>> I think the kernel should set the machine time to the RTC time
>> as an initializer on boot. Other than that, I agree.
>
> Which is something you do from userspace.

You have to initialize (once, on boot) this to
something. I don't really see the point of initializing
it to zero and putting the atime/mtime on a few entries
back to 1970, when we have the value there already.

We /know/ we have to use the RTC values for things
like apm suspend, for instance - I don't want my 'make'
to be broken through races with userspace time functions -
so if we are prepared to read RTC on resume, we should be
prepared to read RTC on boot.

--
Alex Bligh

  reply	other threads:[~2001-11-07  1:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-31  0:33 PROBLEM: Linux updates RTC secretly when clock synchronizes Ian Maclaine-cross
2001-10-31  1:05 ` Kurt Roeckx
2001-10-31  2:55   ` Ian Maclaine-cross
2001-10-31 11:52     ` Kurt Roeckx
2001-11-01  0:52       ` Riley Williams
2001-11-01  1:26         ` Kurt Roeckx
2001-11-01 13:57         ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-02  9:50           ` Riley Williams
2001-11-03 11:41             ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-03 18:35               ` Riley Williams
2001-11-03 19:19                 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-03 21:04                 ` Kurt Roeckx
2001-11-06 10:01                 ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-06  9:57             ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-02 12:16 ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-05 23:08   ` Riley Williams
2001-11-06 10:17     ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-07  0:00       ` Riley Williams
2001-11-07  0:44         ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-07  1:01           ` Kurt Roeckx
2001-11-07  1:15             ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel [this message]
2001-11-07  9:24             ` Russell King
2001-11-08 12:26         ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-08 23:00           ` Riley Williams
2001-11-09  9:32             ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-09 21:11               ` Riley Williams
2001-11-09 21:30                 ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-09 22:54                   ` Riley Williams
2001-11-09 23:10                     ` Mark Zealey
2001-11-10 20:04                     ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-10 20:35                       ` Riley Williams
2001-11-10 20:43                         ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-10 20:49                         ` Doug McNaught
2001-11-06  0:20   ` Ian Maclaine-cross
2001-11-06 10:18     ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-08  5:09       ` Ian Maclaine-cross

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