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From: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>
To: Alexandre TORGUE <alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com>,
	Alexandre TORGUE <alexandre.torgue@st.com>,
	"Alex G." <mr.nuke.me@gmail.com>,
	Gabriel FERNANDEZ - foss <gabriel.fernandez@foss.st.com>,
	Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Maxime Coquelin <mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com>,
	Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	Etienne CARRIERE <etienne.carriere@st.com>
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	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/14] Introduce STM32MP1 RCC in secured mode
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 14:23:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <838b70a1-c02c-0433-ac3d-fc48874b132d@denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac98b89f-9664-b89c-c12c-24c1cbd29b00@foss.st.com>

On 3/11/21 2:15 PM, Alexandre TORGUE wrote:
> Hi Marek

Hello Alexandre,

> On 3/11/21 12:43 PM, Marek Vasut wrote:
>> On 3/11/21 9:08 AM, Alexandre TORGUE wrote:
>>> Hi ALex
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/14] Introduce STM32MP1 RCC in secured mode
>>>>
>>>> On 1/26/21 3:01 AM, gabriel.fernandez@foss.st.com wrote:
>>>>> From: Gabriel Fernandez <gabriel.fernandez@foss.st.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Platform STM32MP1 can be used in configuration where some clocks and
>>>>> IP resets can relate as secure resources.
>>>>> These resources are moved from a RCC clock/reset handle to a SCMI
>>>>> clock/reset_domain handle.
>>>>>
>>>>> The RCC clock driver is now dependent of the SCMI driver, then we have
>>>>> to manage now the probe defering.
>>>>>
>>>>> v1 -> v2:
>>>>>     - fix yamllint warnings.
>>>>
>>>> Hi Gabriel,
>>>>
>>>> I don't have much clout with the maintainers, but I have to NAK this 
>>>> series
>>>> after finding major breakage.
>>>>
>>>> The problem with series is that it breaks pretty much every board it 
>>>> touches.
>>>> I have a DK2 here that I'm using for development, which no longer 
>>>> boots with
>>>> this series applied.
>>>>
>>>> The crux of the matter is that this series assumes all boards will 
>>>> boot with an
>>>> FSBL that implements a very specific SCMI clock tree. This is major ABI
>>>> breakage for anyone not using TF-A as the first stage bootloader. 
>>>> Anyone
>>>> using u-boot SPL is screwed.
>>>>
>>>> This series imposes a SOC-wide change via the dtsi files. So even 
>>>> boards that
>>>> you don't intend to convert to SCMI will get broken this way.
>>>> Adding a -no-scmi file that isn't used anywhere doesn't help things.
>>>
>>> You are right. We mainly take care about NO ST (DH/...) boards, but 
>>> not really about current usage
>>> Of our stm32 boards. Several options exist:
>>
>> Since a lot of people benefit from the good upstream support for the 
>> MP1 _and_ keep updating their machines to get the latest fixes, it is 
>> very important to keep the current usage working.
>>
>>> 1- Break the current ABI: as soon as those patches are merged, 
>>> stm32mp157c-dk2.dtb will impose to use
>>> A tf-a for scmi clocks. For people using u-boot spl, the will have to 
>>> create their own "no-secure" devicetree.
>>
>> NAK, this breaks existing boards and existing setups, e.g. DK2 that 
>> does not use ATF. >
>>> 2-As you suggest, create a new "secure" dtb per boards (Not my wish 
>>> for maintenance perspectives).
>>
>> I agree with Alex (G) that the "secure" option should be opt-in.
>> That way existing setups remain working and no extra requirements are 
>> imposed on MP1 users. Esp. since as far as I understand this, the 
>> "secure" part isn't really about security, but rather about moving 
>> clock configuration from Linux to some firmware blob.
>>
>>> 3- Keep kernel device tree as they are and applied this secure layer 
>>> (scmi clocks phandle) thanks to dtbo in
>>> U-boot.
>>
>> Is this really better than
>> #include "stm32mp15xx-enable-secure-stuff.dtsi"
>> in a board DT ? Because that is how I imagine the opt-in "secure" 
>> option could work.
> 
> The dtbo usage could avoid to add another st board (actually a secure 
> config) in arch/arm/boot/dts.

It isn't even a board, it is a configuration. Could you detect this 
secure/non-secure state at runtime, have both clock options in the DT, 
and handle it accordingly ? That might be even better option.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-03-11 13:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-26  9:01 [PATCH v2 00/14] Introduce STM32MP1 RCC in secured mode gabriel.fernandez
2021-01-26  9:01 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] clk: stm32mp1: merge 'clk-hsi-div' and 'ck_hsi' into one clock gabriel.fernandez
2021-01-26  9:01 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] clk: stm32mp1: merge 'ck_hse_rtc' and 'ck_rtc' " gabriel.fernandez
2021-02-09  8:00   ` Stephen Boyd
2021-02-12  8:08     ` gabriel.fernandez
     [not found]       ` <161369805767.1254594.5233096495913117772@swboyd.mtv.corp.google.com>
2021-02-23 16:34         ` gabriel.fernandez
2021-01-26  9:01 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] clk: stm32mp1: remove intermediate pll clocks gabriel.fernandez
2021-01-26  9:01 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] clk: stm32mp1: convert to module driver gabriel.fernandez
2021-01-26  9:01 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] clk: stm32mp1: move RCC reset controller into RCC clock driver gabriel.fernandez
2021-01-26  9:01 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] reset: stm32mp1: remove stm32mp1 reset gabriel.fernandez
2021-01-26  9:01 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] dt-bindings: clock: add IDs for SCMI clocks on stm32mp15 gabriel.fernandez
2021-02-09 17:52   ` Rob Herring
2021-01-26  9:01 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] dt-bindings: reset: add IDs for SCMI reset domains " gabriel.fernandez
2021-02-09 17:53   ` Rob Herring
2021-01-26  9:01 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] dt-bindings: reset: add MCU HOLD BOOT ID " gabriel.fernandez
2021-02-09 17:54   ` Rob Herring
2021-01-26  9:01 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] clk: stm32mp1: new compatible for secure RCC support gabriel.fernandez
2021-01-26  9:01 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] ARM: dts: stm32: define SCMI resources on stm32mp15 gabriel.fernandez
2021-01-26  9:01 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] ARM: dts: stm32: move clocks/resets to SCMI resources for stm32mp15 gabriel.fernandez
2021-02-18  9:45   ` [Linux-stm32] " Ahmad Fatoum
2021-01-26  9:01 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] dt-bindings: clock: stm32mp1 new compatible for secure rcc gabriel.fernandez
2021-02-09 17:56   ` Rob Herring
2021-01-26  9:01 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] ARM: dts: stm32: introduce basic boot include on stm32mp15x board gabriel.fernandez
2021-03-09 21:50 ` [PATCH v2 00/14] Introduce STM32MP1 RCC in secured mode Alex G.
     [not found]   ` <AS8PR10MB4712C27260707345FA99ED5AEE909@AS8PR10MB4712.EURPRD10.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
2021-03-11 11:43     ` Marek Vasut
     [not found]       ` <ac98b89f-9664-b89c-c12c-24c1cbd29b00@foss.st.com>
2021-03-11 13:23         ` Marek Vasut [this message]
     [not found]       ` <463dafed-ec60-cd9a-33d2-ba118a6af629@foss.st.com>
2021-03-11 14:41         ` [Linux-stm32] " Ahmad Fatoum
     [not found]           ` <c0898d96-2ea1-9b50-a195-8f619121c91c@foss.st.com>
2021-03-11 15:49             ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-11 16:11           ` Marek Vasut
     [not found]             ` <a23933fa-0c94-1e22-6100-d5b1a50826dd@foss.st.com>
2021-03-11 18:23               ` Alex G.
2021-03-11 20:09               ` Marek Vasut

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