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From: Scott Wood <swood@redhat.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Clark Williams <williams@redhat.com>,
	linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH RT 4/4] rcutorture: Avoid problematic critical section nesting
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 11:49:16 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8462f30720637ec0da377aa737d26d2cad424d36.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190626110847.2dfdf72c@gandalf.local.home>

On Wed, 2019-06-26 at 11:08 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 16:59:55 -0700
> "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> > I have no objection to the outlawing of a number of these sequences in
> > mainline, but am rather pointing out that until they really are outlawed
> > and eliminated, rcutorture must continue to test them in mainline.
> > Of course, an rcutorture running in -rt should avoid testing things that
> > break -rt, including these sequences.
> 
> We should update lockdep to complain about these sequences. That would
> "outlaw" them in mainline. That is, after we clean up all the current
> sequences in the code. And we also need to get Linus's approval of this
> as I believe he was against enforcing this in the past.

Was the opposition to prohibiting some specific sequence?  It's only certain
misnesting scenarios that are problematic.  The rcu_read_lock/
local_irq_disable restriction can be dropped with the IPI-to-self added in
Paul's tree.  Are there any known instances of the other two (besides
rcutorture)?

-Scott



  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-26 16:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-19  1:19 [PATCH RT 0/4] Address rcutorture issues Scott Wood
2019-06-19  1:19 ` [PATCH RT 1/4] rcu: Acquire RCU lock when disabling BHs Scott Wood
2019-06-20 20:53   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-20 21:06     ` Scott Wood
2019-06-20 21:20       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-20 21:38         ` Scott Wood
2019-06-20 22:16           ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-19  1:19 ` [PATCH RT 2/4] sched: migrate_enable: Use sleeping_lock to indicate involuntary sleep Scott Wood
2019-06-19  1:19 ` [RFC PATCH RT 3/4] rcu: unlock special: Treat irq and preempt disabled the same Scott Wood
2019-06-20 21:10   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-20 21:59     ` Scott Wood
2019-06-20 22:25       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-20 23:08         ` Scott Wood
2019-06-22  0:26           ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-22 19:13             ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-24 17:40               ` Scott Wood
2019-06-19  1:19 ` [RFC PATCH RT 4/4] rcutorture: Avoid problematic critical section nesting Scott Wood
2019-06-20 21:18   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-20 21:43     ` Scott Wood
2019-06-21 16:38     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-06-21 23:59       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-26 15:08         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-06-26 16:49           ` Scott Wood [this message]
2019-06-27 18:00             ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-27 20:16               ` Scott Wood
2019-06-27 20:50                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-27 22:46                   ` Scott Wood
2019-06-28  0:52                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-28 19:37                       ` Scott Wood
2019-06-28 20:24                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-20 19:12 ` [PATCH RT 0/4] Address rcutorture issues Paul E. McKenney

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