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From: Hans Schultz <schultz.hans@gmail.com>
To: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>,
	Hans Schultz <schultz.hans@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	davem@davemloft.net, kuba@kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>, Ivan Vecera <ivecera@redhat.com>,
	Roopa Prabhu <roopa@nvidia.com>,
	Nikolay Aleksandrov <razor@blackwall.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Ido Schimmel <idosch@nvidia.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 3/3] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: mac-auth/MAB implementation
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 11:13:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86fsn90ye8.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220322110806.kbdb362jf6pbtqaf@skbuf>

On tis, mar 22, 2022 at 13:08, Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 12:01:13PM +0100, Hans Schultz wrote:
>> On fre, mar 18, 2022 at 15:19, Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 02:10:26PM +0100, Hans Schultz wrote:
>> >> In the offloaded case there is no difference between static and dynamic
>> >> flags, which I see as a general issue. (The resulting ATU entry is static
>> >> in either case.)
>> >
>> > It _is_ a problem. We had the same problem with the is_local bit.
>> > Independently of this series, you can add the dynamic bit to struct
>> > switchdev_notifier_fdb_info and make drivers reject it.
>> >
>> >> These FDB entries are removed when link goes down (soft or hard). The
>> >> zero DPV entries that the new code introduces age out after 5 minutes,
>> >> while the locked flagged FDB entries are removed by link down (thus the
>> >> FDB and the ATU are not in sync in this case).
>> >
>> > Ok, so don't let them disappear from hardware, refresh them from the
>> > driver, since user space and the bridge driver expect that they are
>> > still there.
>> 
>> I have now tested with two extra unmanaged switches (each connected to a
>> seperate port on our managed switch, and when migrating from one port to
>> another, there is member violations, but as the initial entry ages out,
>> a new miss violation occurs and the new port adds the locked entry. In
>> this case I only see one locked entry, either on the initial port or
>> later on the port the host migrated to (via switch).
>> 
>> If I refresh the ATU entries indefinitly, then this migration will for
>> sure not work, and with the member violation suppressed, it will be
>> silent about it.
>
> Manual says that migrations should trigger miss violations if configured
> adequately, is this not the case?
>
>> So I don't think it is a good idea to refresh the ATU entries
>> indefinitely.
>> 
>> Another issue I see, is that there is a deadlock or similar issue when
>> receiving violations and running 'bridge fdb show' (it seemed that
>> member violations also caused this, but not sure yet...), as the unit
>> freezes, not to return...
>
> Have you enabled lockdep, debug atomic sleep, detect hung tasks, things
> like that?

I have now determined that it is the rtnl_lock() that causes the
"deadlock". The doit() in rtnetlink.c is under rtnl_lock() and is what
takes care of getting the fdb entries when running 'bridge fdb show'. In
principle there should be no problem with this, but I don't know if some
interrupt queue is getting jammed as they are blocked from rtnetlink.c?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-03-23 10:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-10 14:23 [PATCH net-next 0/3] Extend locked port feature with FDB locked flag (MAC-Auth/MAB) Hans Schultz
2022-03-10 14:23 ` [PATCH net-next 1/3] net: bridge: add fdb flag to extent locked port feature Hans Schultz
2022-03-10 14:42   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2022-03-10 15:38     ` Hans Schultz
2022-03-10 15:57       ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2022-03-10 16:11         ` Hans Schultz
2022-03-10 16:14           ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2022-03-10 16:33             ` Hans Schultz
2022-03-14 15:30   ` Ido Schimmel
2022-03-15  8:48     ` Hans Schultz
2022-03-15 11:00       ` Ido Schimmel
2022-03-10 14:23 ` [PATCH net-next 2/3] net: switchdev: add support for offloading of fdb locked flag Hans Schultz
2022-03-10 14:23 ` [PATCH net-next 3/3] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: mac-auth/MAB implementation Hans Schultz
2022-03-10 14:28   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-03-10 15:00     ` Hans Schultz
2022-03-10 15:07       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-03-10 15:51         ` Hans Schultz
2022-03-10 16:05           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-03-10 16:40             ` Hans Schultz
2022-03-10 15:57     ` Hans Schultz
2022-03-14 10:46     ` Hans Schultz
2022-03-16 23:34       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-03-17  8:52         ` Hans Schultz
2022-03-17 14:19           ` Andrew Lunn
2022-03-17 15:36             ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-03-17 16:07               ` Hans Schultz
2022-03-17 16:18                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-03-17 16:58                   ` Hans Schultz
2022-03-17 17:20                     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-03-18 10:04                       ` Hans Schultz
2022-03-18 12:14                         ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-03-18 13:10                           ` Hans Schultz
2022-03-18 13:19                             ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-03-22 11:01                               ` Hans Schultz
2022-03-22 11:08                                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-03-22 13:21                                   ` Hans Schultz
2022-03-22 14:47                                     ` Hans Schultz
2022-03-23 10:13                                   ` Hans Schultz [this message]
2022-03-23 10:16                                     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-03-23 10:46                                       ` Hans Schultz
2022-03-23 10:57                                       ` Hans Schultz
2022-03-23 11:21                                         ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-03-23 11:43                                           ` Hans Schultz
2022-03-23 11:54                                             ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-03-21 14:51             ` Hans Schultz
2022-03-10 14:54   ` Andrew Lunn
2022-03-11  7:59     ` Hans Schultz
2022-03-14 15:50 ` [PATCH net-next 0/3] Extend locked port feature with FDB locked flag (MAC-Auth/MAB) Ido Schimmel
2022-03-15  8:59   ` Hans Schultz
2022-03-15 11:11     ` Ido Schimmel
2022-03-17  0:18 ` Florian Fainelli
2022-03-17  8:29   ` Hans Schultz
2022-03-17 18:42     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-12-05 18:59 [PATCH net-next 0/3] mv88e6xxx: Add MAB offload support Hans J. Schultz
2022-12-05 18:59 ` [PATCH net-next 3/3] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: mac-auth/MAB implementation Hans J. Schultz
2022-12-06 12:53   ` Ido Schimmel
2022-12-06 16:36     ` netdev
2022-12-07 20:29       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-12-08 12:28         ` netdev
2022-12-08 13:35           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-12-08 14:41             ` netdev
2022-12-08 14:43               ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-12-08 16:03             ` netdev
2022-12-08 16:09               ` Vladimir Oltean

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