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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
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	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] exec: Remove recursion from search_binary_handler
Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 13:42:53 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874kslq9jm.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202005111428.B094E3B76A@keescook> (Kees Cook's message of "Mon, 11 May 2020 14:55:27 -0700")

Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> writes:

> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 09:33:21AM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> writes:
>> 
>> > On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 9:30 PM Tetsuo Handa
>> > <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Wouldn't this change cause
>> >>
>> >>         if (fd_binary > 0)
>> >>                 ksys_close(fd_binary);
>> >>         bprm->interp_flags = 0;
>> >>         bprm->interp_data = 0;
>> >>
>> >> not to be called when "Search for the interpreter" failed?
>> >
>> > Good catch. We seem to have some subtle magic wrt the fd_binary file
>> > descriptor, which depends on the recursive behavior.
>> 
>> Yes.  I Tetsuo I really appreciate you noticing this.  This is exactly
>> the kind of behavior I am trying to flush out and keep from being
>> hidden.
>> 
>> > I'm not seeing how to fix it cleanly with the "turn it into a loop".
>> > Basically, that binfmt_misc use-case isn't really a tail-call.
>> 
>> I have reservations about installing a new file descriptor before
>> we process the close on exec logic and the related security modules
>> closing file descriptors that your new credentials no longer give
>> you access to logic.
>
> Hm, this does feel odd. In looking at this, it seems like this file
> never gets close-on-exec set, and doesn't have its flags changed from
> its original open:
>                 .open_flag = O_LARGEFILE | O_RDONLY | __FMODE_EXEC,
> only the UMH path through exec doesn't explicitly open a file by name
> from what I can see, so we'll only have these flags.
>
>> I haven't yet figured out how opening a file descriptor during exec
>> should fit into all of that.
>> 
>> What I do see is that interp_data is just a parameter that is smuggled
>> into the call of search binary handler.  And the next binary handler
>> needs to be binfmt_elf for it to make much sense, as only binfmt_elf
>> (and binfmt_elf_fdpic) deals with BINPRM_FLAGS_EXECFD.
>> 
>> So I think what needs to happen is to rename bprm->interp_data to
>> bprm->execfd, remove BINPRM_FLAGS_EXECFD and make closing that file
>> descriptor free_bprm's responsiblity.
>
> Yeah, I would agree. As far as the close handling, I don't think there
> is a difference here: it interp_data was closed on the binfmt_misc.c
> error path, and in the new world it would be the exec error path -- both
> would be under the original credentials.
>
>> I hope such a change will make it easier to see all of the pieces that
>> are intereacting during exec.
>
> Right -- I'm not sure which piece should "consume" bprm->execfd though,
> which I think is what you're asking next...
>
>> I am still asking: is the installation of that file descriptor useful if
>> it is not exported passed to userspace as an AT_EXECFD note?
>> 
>> I will dig in and see what I can come up with.
>
> Should binfmt_misc do the install, or can the consuming binfmt do it?
> i.e. when binfmt_elf sees bprm->execfd, does it perform the install
> instead?

I am still thinking about this one, but here is where I am at.  At a
practical level passing the file descriptor of the script to interpreter
seems like something we should encourage in the long term.  It removes
races and it is cheaper because then the interpreter does not have to
turn around and open the script itself.



Strictly speaking binfmt_misc should not need to close the file
descriptor in binfmt_misc because we have already unshared the files
struct and reset_files_struct should handle restoring it.

Calling fd_install in binfmt_misc still seems wrong, as that exposes
the new file descriptor to user space with the old creds.

It is possible although unlikely for userspace to find the file
descriptor without consulting AT_EXECFD so just to be conservative I
think we should install the file descriptor in begin_new_exec even if
the next interpreter does not support AT_EXECFD.


I am still working on how to handle recursive binfmts but I suspect it
is just a matter of having an array of struct files in struct
linux_binprm.


Eric









  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-12 18:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 149+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-05 19:39 exec: Promised cleanups after introducing exec_update_mutex Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-05 19:41 ` [PATCH 1/7] binfmt: Move install_exec_creds after setup_new_exec to match binfmt_elf Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-05 20:45   ` Kees Cook
2020-05-06 12:42   ` Greg Ungerer
2020-05-06 12:56     ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-05 19:41 ` [PATCH 2/7] exec: Make unlocking exec_update_mutex explict Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-05 20:46   ` Kees Cook
2020-05-05 19:42 ` [PATCH 3/7] exec: Rename the flag called_exec_mmap point_of_no_return Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-05 20:49   ` Kees Cook
2020-05-05 19:43 ` [PATCH 4/7] exec: Merge install_exec_creds into setup_new_exec Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-05 20:50   ` Kees Cook
2020-05-05 19:44 ` [PATCH 5/7] exec: In setup_new_exec cache current in the local variable me Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-05 20:51   ` Kees Cook
2020-05-05 19:45 ` [PATCH 6/7] exec: Move most of setup_new_exec into flush_old_exec Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-05 21:29   ` Kees Cook
2020-05-06 14:57     ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-06 15:30       ` Kees Cook
2020-05-07 19:51         ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-07 21:51     ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-08  5:50       ` Kees Cook
2020-05-05 19:46 ` [PATCH 7/7] exec: Rename flush_old_exec begin_new_exec Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-05 21:30   ` Kees Cook
2020-05-06 12:41 ` exec: Promised cleanups after introducing exec_update_mutex Greg Ungerer
2020-05-08 18:43 ` [PATCH 0/6] exec: Trivial cleanups for exec Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-08 18:44   ` [PATCH 1/6] exec: Move the comment from above de_thread to above unshare_sighand Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-09  5:02     ` Kees Cook
2020-05-08 18:44   ` [PATCH 2/6] exec: Fix spelling of search_binary_handler in a comment Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-09  5:03     ` Kees Cook
2020-05-08 18:45   ` [PATCH 3/6] exec: Stop open coding mutex_lock_killable of cred_guard_mutex Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-09  5:08     ` Kees Cook
2020-05-09 19:18     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-05-09 19:57       ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-10 20:33       ` Kees Cook
2020-05-08 18:45   ` [PATCH 4/6] exec: Run sync_mm_rss before taking exec_update_mutex Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-09  5:15     ` Kees Cook
2020-05-09 14:17       ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-08 18:47   ` [PATCH 5/6] exec: Move handling of the point of no return to the top level Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-09  5:31     ` Kees Cook
2020-05-09 13:39       ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-08 18:48   ` [PATCH 6/6] exec: Set the point of no return sooner Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-09  5:33     ` Kees Cook
2020-05-09 19:40   ` [PATCH 0/5] exec: Control flow simplifications Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-09 19:40     ` [PATCH 1/5] exec: Call cap_bprm_set_creds directly from prepare_binprm Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-09 20:04       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-05-09 19:41     ` [PATCH 2/5] exec: Directly call security_bprm_set_creds from __do_execve_file Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-09 20:07       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-05-09 20:12         ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-09 20:19           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-05-11  3:15       ` Kees Cook
2020-05-11 16:52         ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-11 21:18           ` Kees Cook
2020-05-09 19:41     ` [PATCH 3/5] exec: Remove recursion from search_binary_handler Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-09 20:16       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-05-10  4:22       ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-10 19:38         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-05-11 14:33           ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-11 19:10             ` Rob Landley
2020-05-13 21:59               ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-14 18:46                 ` Rob Landley
2020-05-11 21:55             ` Kees Cook
2020-05-12 18:42               ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2020-05-12 19:25                 ` Kees Cook
2020-05-12 20:31                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-12 23:08                     ` Kees Cook
2020-05-12 23:47                       ` Kees Cook
2020-05-12 23:51                         ` Kees Cook
2020-05-14 14:56                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-14 16:56                             ` Casey Schaufler
2020-05-14 17:02                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-13  0:20                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-05-13  2:39                   ` Rob Landley
2020-05-13 19:51                     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-05-14 16:49                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-09 19:42     ` [PATCH 4/5] exec: Allow load_misc_binary to call prepare_binfmt unconditionally Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-11 22:09       ` Kees Cook
2020-05-09 19:42     ` [PATCH 5/5] exec: Move the call of prepare_binprm into search_binary_handler Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-11 22:24       ` Kees Cook
2020-05-19  0:29     ` [PATCH v2 0/8] exec: Control flow simplifications Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-19  0:29       ` [PATCH v2 1/8] exec: Teach prepare_exec_creds how exec treats uids & gids Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-19 18:03         ` Kees Cook
2020-05-19 18:28           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-05-19 18:57             ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-19  0:30       ` [PATCH v2 2/8] exec: Factor security_bprm_creds_for_exec out of security_bprm_set_creds Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-19 15:34         ` Casey Schaufler
2020-05-19 18:10         ` Kees Cook
2020-05-19 21:28           ` James Morris
2020-05-19  0:31       ` [PATCH v2 3/8] exec: Convert security_bprm_set_creds into security_bprm_repopulate_creds Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-19 18:21         ` Kees Cook
2020-05-19 19:03           ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-19 19:14             ` Kees Cook
2020-05-20 20:22               ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-20 20:53                 ` Kees Cook
2020-05-19 21:52         ` James Morris
2020-05-20 12:40           ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-19  0:31       ` [PATCH v2 4/8] exec: Allow load_misc_binary to call prepare_binfmt unconditionally Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-19 18:27         ` Kees Cook
2020-05-19 19:08           ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-19 19:17             ` Kees Cook
2020-05-19  0:32       ` [PATCH v2 5/8] exec: Move the call of prepare_binprm into search_binary_handler Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-19 18:27         ` Kees Cook
2020-05-19 21:30         ` James Morris
2020-05-19  0:33       ` [PATCH v2 6/8] exec/binfmt_script: Don't modify bprm->buf and then return -ENOEXEC Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-19 19:08         ` Kees Cook
2020-05-19 19:19           ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-19  0:33       ` [PATCH v2 7/8] exec: Generic execfd support Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-19 19:46         ` Kees Cook
2020-05-19 19:54           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-05-19 20:20             ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-19 21:59         ` Rob Landley
2020-05-20 16:05           ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-21 22:50             ` Rob Landley
2020-05-22  3:28               ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-22  4:51                 ` Rob Landley
2020-05-22 13:35                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-19  0:34       ` [PATCH v2 8/8] exec: Remove recursion from search_binary_handler Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-19 20:37         ` Kees Cook
2020-05-19  1:25       ` [PATCH v2 0/8] exec: Control flow simplifications Linus Torvalds
2020-05-19 21:55       ` Kees Cook
2020-05-20 13:02         ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-20 22:12       ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-20 23:43         ` Kees Cook
2020-05-21 11:53           ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-28 15:38       ` [PATCH 0/11] exec: cred calculation simplifications Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-28 15:41         ` [PATCH 01/11] exec: Reduce bprm->per_clear to a single bit Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-28 19:04           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-05-28 19:17             ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-28 15:42         ` [PATCH 02/11] exec: Introduce active_per_clear the per file version of per_clear Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-28 19:05           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-05-28 15:42         ` [PATCH 03/11] exec: Compute file based creds only once Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-28 15:43         ` [PATCH 04/11] exec: Move uid/gid handling from creds_from_file into bprm_fill_uid Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-28 15:44         ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-28 15:44         ` [PATCH 05/11] exec: In bprm_fill_uid use CAP_SETGID to see if a gid change is safe Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-28 15:48         ` [PATCH 06/11] exec: Don't set secureexec when the uid or gid changes are abandoned Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-28 15:48         ` [PATCH 07/11] exec: Set saved, fs, and effective ids together in bprm_fill_uid Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-28 15:49         ` [PATCH 08/11] exec: In bprm_fill_uid remove unnecessary no new privs check Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-28 15:49         ` [PATCH 09/11] exec: In bprm_fill_uid only set per_clear when honoring suid or sgid Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-28 19:08           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-05-28 19:21             ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-28 15:50         ` [PATCH 10/11] exec: In bprm_fill_uid set secureexec at same time as per_clear Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-28 15:50         ` [PATCH 11/11] exec: Remove the label after_setid from bprm_fill_uid Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-29 16:45         ` [PATCH 0/2] exec: Remove the computation of bprm->cred Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-29 16:46           ` [PATCH 1/2] exec: Add a per bprm->file version of per_clear Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-29 21:06             ` Kees Cook
2020-05-30  3:23               ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-30  5:14                 ` Kees Cook
2020-05-29 16:47           ` [PATCH 2/2] exec: Compute file based creds only once Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-29 21:24             ` Kees Cook
2020-05-30  3:28               ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-30  5:18                 ` Kees Cook

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