From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Liu, Jing2" <jing2.liu@intel.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: "x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
"Bae, Chang Seok" <chang.seok.bae@intel.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
Jing Liu <jing2.liu@linux.intel.com>,
"seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>,
Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 13/31] x86/fpu: Move KVMs FPU swapping to FPU core
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 14:23:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <875ytz7q2u.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ec9c761d-4b5c-71e2-c1fc-d256b6b78c04@redhat.com>
Paolo,
On Thu, Oct 14 2021 at 08:50, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 13/10/21 16:06, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>> - the guest value stored in vcpu->arch.
>>>
>>> - the "QEMU" value attached to host_fpu. This one only becomes zero if
>>> QEMU requires AMX (which shouldn't happen).
>>
>> I don't think that makes sense.
>>
>> First of all, if QEMU wants to expose AMX to guests, then it has to ask
>> for permission to do so as any other user space process. We're not going
>> to make that special just because.
>
> Hmm, I would have preferred if there was no need to enable AMX for the
> QEMU FPU. But you're saying that guest_fpu needs to swap out to
> current->thread.fpu if the guest is preempted, which would require
> XFD=0; and affect QEMU operation as well.
Exactly. If we don't enable it for QEMY itself, then this is creating
just a horrible inconsistency which requires nasty hacks. I'm not at
all interested in those as I just got rid of quite some and made the
code consistent.
> In principle I don't like it very much; it would be nicer to say "you
> enable it for QEMU itself via arch_prctl(ARCH_SET_STATE_ENABLE), and for
> the guests via ioctl(KVM_SET_CPUID2)". But I can see why you want to
> keep things simple, so it's not a strong objection at all.
Errm.
qemu()
read_config()
if (dynamic_features_passthrough())
request_permission(feature) <- prctl(ARCH_SET_STATE_ENABLE)
create_vcpu_threads()
....
vcpu_thread()
kvm_ioctl(ENABLE_DYN_FEATURE, feature) <- KVM ioctl
That's what I lined out, right?
>> Anything else will just create more problems than it solves. Especially
>> #NM handling (think nested guest) and the XFD_ERR additive behaviour
>> will be a nasty playground and easy to get wrong.
>>
>> Not having that at all makes life way simpler, right?
>
> It is simpler indeed, and it makes sense to start simple. I am not sure
> if it will hold, but I agree it's better for the first implementation.
KISS is a very reasonable engineering principle :)
If there is a real world use case and a proper technical justification
for doing the dynamic buffer allocation then I'm happy to discuss that.
Thanks,
tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-10-14 12:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-10-11 23:59 [patch 00/31] x86/fpu: Preparatory cleanups for AMX support (part 1) Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-11 23:59 ` [patch 01/31] x86/fpu: Remove pointless argument from switch_fpu_finish() Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 02/31] x86/fpu: Update stale comments Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 03/31] x86/pkru: Remove useless include Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 04/31] x86/fpu: Restrict xsaves()/xrstors() to independent states Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 14:24 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 05/31] x86/fpu: Cleanup the on_boot_cpu clutter Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 06/31] x86/fpu: Remove pointless memset in fpu_clone() Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 07/31] x86/process: Clone FPU in copy_thread() Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 08/31] x86/fpu: Do not inherit FPU context for kernel and IO worker threads Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 09/31] x86/fpu: Do not inherit FPU context for CLONE_THREAD Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 16:10 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-12 18:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 19:01 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 10/31] x86/fpu: Cleanup xstate xcomp_bv initialization Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 11/31] x86/fpu/xstate: Provide and use for_each_xfeature() Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 16:45 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 12/31] x86/fpu/xstate: Mark all init only functions __init Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 13/31] x86/fpu: Move KVMs FPU swapping to FPU core Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 16:53 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-12 18:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 18:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 17:22 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-13 6:15 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-13 6:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-13 7:46 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-13 8:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-13 10:14 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-10-13 12:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-13 14:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-13 14:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-13 14:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-10-13 15:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-13 10:25 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-13 12:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-13 14:06 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-14 6:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-14 8:02 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-14 9:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-14 11:21 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-14 11:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-14 11:30 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-14 11:39 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-22 8:50 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-14 14:09 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-14 14:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-14 15:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-14 19:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-15 9:20 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-15 9:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-15 14:24 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-15 15:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-16 14:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-15 9:00 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-15 10:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-15 11:17 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-15 13:01 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-14 12:23 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2021-10-14 12:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-14 14:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-13 15:12 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-14 8:21 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-14 13:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 14/31] x86/fpu: Replace KVMs homebrewn FPU copy from user Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 17:00 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-13 14:57 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-10-13 15:12 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-13 15:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 17:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 15/31] x86/fpu: Rework copy_xstate_to_uabi_buf() Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 17:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 16/31] x86/fpu: Replace KVMs homebrewn FPU copy to user Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 17:10 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-12 17:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-12 17:47 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 18:40 ` [patch V2 16/31] x86/fpu: Replace KVMs home brewed " Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-13 5:34 ` [patch 16/31] x86/fpu: Replace KVMs homebrewn " Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 17/31] x86/fpu: Mark fpu__init_prepare_fx_sw_frame() as __init Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 18/31] x86/fpu: Move context switch and exit to user inlines into sched.h Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 19/31] x86/fpu: Clean up cpu feature tests Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 20/31] x86/fpu: Make os_xrstor_booting() private Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 21/31] x86/fpu: Move os_xsave() and os_xrstor() to core Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 22/31] x86/fpu: Move legacy ASM wrappers " Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 23/31] x86/fpu: Make WARN_ON_FPU() private Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 24/31] x86/fpu: Move fpregs_restore_userregs() to core Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 17:32 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 25/31] x86/fpu: Move mxcsr related code " Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 26/31] x86/fpu: Move fpstate functions to api.h Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 17:46 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 27/31] x86/fpu: Remove internal.h dependency from fpu/signal.h Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 28/31] x86/sev: Include fpu/xcr.h Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 7:24 ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 29/31] x86/fpu: Mop up the internal.h leftovers Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 30/31] x86/fpu: Replace the includes of fpu/internal.h Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 0:00 ` [patch 31/31] x86/fpu: Provide a proper function for ex_handler_fprestore() Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 21:15 ` [patch 00/31] x86/fpu: Preparatory cleanups for AMX support (part 1) Thomas Gleixner
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