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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Luming Yu <luming.yu@gmail.com>, paulmck@kernel.org
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	john.stultz@linaro.org, sboyd@kernel.org, corbet@lwn.net,
	Mark.Rutland@arm.com, maz@kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com,
	neeraju@codeaurora.org, feng.tang@intel.com,
	zhengjun.xing@intel.com, Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 clocksource 1/7] clocksource: Provide module parameters to inject delays in watchdog
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 16:37:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877dkmmq4q.ffs@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJRGBZyFbvpdrbKmV9KrXz7VkMcTMqVp2PAcFRvroZue6b9tag@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 28 2021 at 22:24, Luming Yu wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 9:57 PM Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> wrote:
>> Therefore, the code marks the clock unstable if it has four bad reads
>> in a row, as it should.
>
> The hard problem to solve is tsc is still in good shape and it can be verified
> with a quick cross check with other thread/core's tsc counts in the
> injected situation or in real life case
> to prove if it is  truly a tsc problem or reference clock's problem of
> the watchdog.
>
> Ideally, we could factor out hard-to-debug unstable tsc problems from
> clock source watchdog problems
> and get less and less tsc sightings caused by clock source watchdog.

The only way to fix this is at the hardware level. Everything else is
wishful thinking.

Thanks,

        tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-28 14:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-25 22:45 [PATCH v10 clocksource 0/7] Do not mark clocks unstable due to delays for v5.13 Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v10 clocksource 1/7] clocksource: Provide module parameters to inject delays in watchdog Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-26  4:07   ` Andi Kleen
2021-04-26  7:13     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-26 15:28     ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-26 16:00       ` Andi Kleen
2021-04-26 16:14         ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-26 17:56           ` Andi Kleen
2021-04-26 18:24             ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-28  4:49               ` Luming Yu
2021-04-28 13:57                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-28 14:24                   ` Luming Yu
2021-04-28 14:37                     ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v10 clocksource 2/7] clocksource: Retry clock read if long delays detected Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-27  1:44   ` Feng Tang
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v10 clocksource 3/7] clocksource: Check per-CPU clock synchronization when marked unstable Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-26  4:12   ` Andi Kleen
2021-04-26  7:16     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v10 clocksource 4/7] clocksource: Provide a module parameter to fuzz per-CPU clock checking Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v10 clocksource 5/7] clocksource: Limit number of CPUs checked for clock synchronization Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v10 clocksource 6/7] clocksource: Forgive tsc_early pre-calibration drift Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-26 15:01   ` Feng Tang
2021-04-26 15:25     ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-26 15:36       ` Feng Tang
2021-04-26 18:26         ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-27  1:13           ` Feng Tang
2021-04-27  3:46             ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-27  4:16               ` Feng Tang
2021-04-26 15:28     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-27 21:03     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-27  7:27   ` [clocksource] 8c30ace35d: WARNING:at_kernel/time/clocksource.c:#clocksource_watchdog kernel test robot
2021-04-27  8:45     ` Feng Tang
2021-04-27 13:37       ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-27 17:50         ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-27 21:09           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-28  1:48             ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-28 10:14               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-28 18:31                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-28 13:34             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-28 15:39               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-28 17:00                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-29  7:38                   ` Feng Tang
2021-04-28 18:31               ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-29  8:27                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-29 14:26                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-29 17:30                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-29 23:04                       ` Andi Kleen
2021-04-30  0:24                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-30  0:59                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-30  5:08                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v9 clocksource 6/6] clocksource: Reduce WATCHDOG_THRESHOLD Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v10 clocksource 7/7] " Paul E. McKenney

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