From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: paulmck@kernel.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, john.stultz@linaro.org,
sboyd@kernel.org, corbet@lwn.net, Mark.Rutland@arm.com,
maz@kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com, neeraju@codeaurora.org,
ak@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 clocksource 3/5] clocksource: Check per-CPU clock synchronization when marked unstable
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2021 12:33:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878s5p2jqv.ffs@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210411002020.GV4510@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1>
On Sat, Apr 10 2021 at 17:20, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 11:00:25AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> > + if (WARN_ON_ONCE(!cs))
>> > + return;
>> > + pr_warn("Checking clocksource %s synchronization from CPU %d.\n",
>> > + cs->name, smp_processor_id());
>> > + cpumask_clear(&cpus_ahead);
>> > + cpumask_clear(&cpus_behind);
>> > + csnow_begin = cs->read(cs);
>>
>> So this is invoked via work and the actual clocksource change is done
>> via work too. Once the clocksource is not longer actively used for
>> timekeeping it can go away. What's guaranteeing that this runs prior to
>> the clocksource change and 'cs' is valid throughout this function?
>
> From what I can see, cs->read() doesn't care whether or not the
> clocksource has been marked unstable. So it should be OK to call
> cs->read() before, during, or after the call to __clocksource_unstable().
>
> Also, this is only done on clocksources marked CLOCK_SOURCE_VERIFY_PERCPU,
> so any clocksource that did not like cs->read() being invoked during
> or after the call to __clocksource_unstable() should leave off the
> CLOCK_SOURCE_VERIFY_PERCPU bit.
>
> Or did I take a wrong turn somewhere in the pointers to functions?
Right. cs->read() does not care, but what guarantees that cs is valid
and not freed yet? It's not an issue with TSC and KVMCLOCK, but
conceptually the following is possible:
watchdog()
queue_work(synccheck);
queue_work(clocksource_change);
work:
synccheck() clocksource_change()
preemption ...
...
some_other_code():
unregister_clocksource(cs)
free(cs)
cs->read() <- UAF
>> > + queue_work(system_highpri_wq, &clocksource_verify_work);
>>
>> This does not guarantee anything. So why does this need an extra work
>> function which is scheduled seperately?
>
> Because I was concerned about doing smp_call_function() while holding
> watchdog_lock, which is also acquired elsewhere using spin_lock_irqsave().
> And it still looks like on x86 that spin_lock_irqsave() spins with irqs
> disabled, which could result in deadlock. The smp_call_function_single()
> would wait for the target CPU to enable interrupts, which would not
> happen until after the smp_call_function_single() returned due to its
> caller holding watchdog_lock.
>
> Or is there something that I am missing that prevents this deadlock
> from occurring?
The unstable mechanism is:
watchdog()
__clocksource_unstable()
schedule_work(&watchdog_work);
watchdog_work()
kthread_run(clocksource_watchdog_thread);
cs_watchdog_thread()
mutex_lock(&clocksource_mutex);
if (__clocksource_watchdog_kthread())
clocksource_select();
mutex_unlock(&clocksource_mutex);
So what prevents you from doing that right in watchdog_work() or even in
cs_watchdog_thread() properly ordered against the actual clocksource
switch?
Hmm?
Thanks,
tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-04-11 10:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-01-06 0:40 [PATCH RFC clocksource] Do not mark clocks unstable due to delays Paul E. McKenney
2021-01-06 0:41 ` [PATCH RFC clocksource 1/5] clocksource: Provide module parameters to inject delays in watchdog paulmck
2021-01-06 0:41 ` [PATCH RFC clocksource 2/5] clocksource: Retry clock read if long delays detected paulmck
2021-01-06 16:28 ` Rik van Riel
2021-01-06 19:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-01-06 20:59 ` Rik van Riel
2021-01-06 0:41 ` [PATCH RFC clocksource 3/5] clocksource: Check per-CPU clock synchronization when marked unstable paulmck
2021-01-06 0:41 ` [PATCH RFC clocksource 4/5] clocksource: Provide a module parameter to fuzz per-CPU clock checking paulmck
2021-01-06 0:41 ` [PATCH RFC clocksource 5/5] clocksource: Do pairwise clock-desynchronization checking paulmck
2021-01-12 0:42 ` [PATCH v2 clocksource] Do not mark clocks unstable due to delays Paul E. McKenney
2021-01-12 0:45 ` [PATCH v2 clocksource 1/5] clocksource: Provide module parameters to inject delays in watchdog paulmck
2021-01-12 0:45 ` [PATCH v2 clocksource 2/5] clocksource: Retry clock read if long delays detected paulmck
2021-01-12 0:45 ` [PATCH v2 clocksource 3/5] clocksource: Check per-CPU clock synchronization when marked unstable paulmck
2021-01-12 0:45 ` [PATCH v2 clocksource 4/5] clocksource: Provide a module parameter to fuzz per-CPU clock checking paulmck
2021-01-12 0:45 ` [PATCH v2 clocksource 5/5] clocksource: Do pairwise clock-desynchronization checking paulmck
2021-02-02 17:04 ` [PATCH v3 clocksource] Do not mark clocks unstable due to delays Paul E. McKenney
2021-02-02 17:06 ` [PATCH clocksource 1/5] clocksource: Provide module parameters to inject delays in watchdog paulmck
2021-02-02 17:06 ` [PATCH clocksource 2/5] clocksource: Retry clock read if long delays detected paulmck
2021-02-02 17:06 ` [PATCH clocksource 3/5] clocksource: Check per-CPU clock synchronization when marked unstable paulmck
2021-02-02 17:06 ` [PATCH clocksource 4/5] clocksource: Provide a module parameter to fuzz per-CPU clock checking paulmck
2021-02-02 19:51 ` Randy Dunlap
2021-02-03 0:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-02-03 1:31 ` Randy Dunlap
2021-02-03 1:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-02-02 17:06 ` [PATCH clocksource 5/5] clocksource: Do pairwise clock-desynchronization checking paulmck
2021-02-17 21:28 ` [PATCH v3 clocksource] Do not mark clocks unstable due to delays Paul E. McKenney
2021-02-17 21:29 ` [PATCH clocksource 1/5] clocksource: Provide module parameters to inject delays in watchdog paulmck
2021-02-17 21:29 ` [PATCH clocksource 2/5] clocksource: Retry clock read if long delays detected paulmck
2021-02-17 21:29 ` [PATCH clocksource 3/5] clocksource: Check per-CPU clock synchronization when marked unstable paulmck
2021-02-17 21:29 ` [PATCH clocksource 4/5] clocksource: Provide a module parameter to fuzz per-CPU clock checking paulmck
2021-02-17 21:29 ` [PATCH clocksource 5/5] clocksource: Do pairwise clock-desynchronization checking paulmck
2021-03-04 0:49 ` [PATCH v5 clocksource] Do not mark clocks unstable due to delays for v5.13 Paul E. McKenney
2021-03-04 0:53 ` [PATCH kernel/time 1/5] clocksource: Provide module parameters to inject delays in watchdog paulmck
2021-03-04 0:53 ` [PATCH kernel/time 2/5] clocksource: Retry clock read if long delays detected paulmck
2021-03-04 0:53 ` [PATCH kernel/time 3/5] clocksource: Check per-CPU clock synchronization when marked unstable paulmck
2021-03-04 0:53 ` [PATCH kernel/time 4/5] clocksource: Provide a module parameter to fuzz per-CPU clock checking paulmck
2021-03-04 0:53 ` [PATCH kernel/time 5/5] clocksource: Do pairwise clock-desynchronization checking paulmck
2021-04-02 20:29 ` [PATCH v5 clocksource] Do not mark clocks unstable due to delays for v5.13 Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-02 20:31 ` [PATCH v6 clocksource] Do not mark clocks unstable dueclocksource: Provide module parameters to inject delays in watchdog paulmck
2021-04-02 22:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-02 22:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-02 22:48 ` [PATCH v7 clocksource] Do not mark clocks unstable due to delays for v5.13 Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-02 22:49 ` [PATCH v7 clocksource 1/5] clocksource: Provide module parameters to inject delays in watchdog paulmck
2021-04-02 22:49 ` [PATCH v7 clocksource 2/5] clocksource: Retry clock read if long delays detected paulmck
2021-04-10 8:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-10 23:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-02 22:49 ` [PATCH v7 clocksource 3/5] clocksource: Check per-CPU clock synchronization when marked unstable paulmck
2021-04-10 9:00 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-11 0:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-11 10:33 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2021-04-11 16:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-12 4:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-12 13:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-12 18:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-12 18:54 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-12 19:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-12 20:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-12 23:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-13 20:49 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-14 4:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-02 22:49 ` [PATCH v7 clocksource 4/5] clocksource: Provide a module parameter to fuzz per-CPU clock checking paulmck
2021-04-02 22:49 ` [PATCH v7 clocksource 5/5] clocksource: Do pairwise clock-desynchronization checking paulmck
2021-04-10 9:04 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-11 0:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v7 clocksource] Do not mark clocks unstable due to delays for v5.13 Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-10 23:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-11 10:58 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-11 16:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-02 20:31 ` [PATCH v6 clocksource] Do not mark clocks unstable dueclocksource: Retry clock read if long delays detected paulmck
2021-04-02 20:31 ` [PATCH v6 clocksource] Do not mark clocks unstable dueclocksource: Check per-CPU clock synchronization when marked unstable paulmck
2021-04-02 20:31 ` [PATCH v6 clocksource] Do not mark clocks unstable dueclocksource: Provide a module parameter to fuzz per-CPU clock checking paulmck
2021-04-02 20:31 ` [PATCH v6 clocksource] Do not mark clocks unstable dueclocksource: Do pairwise clock-desynchronization checking paulmck
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