From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5631C43441 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:02:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F87120862 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:02:15 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 9F87120862 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727708AbeKKUu2 (ORCPT ); Sun, 11 Nov 2018 15:50:28 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:44488 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727344AbeKKUu2 (ORCPT ); Sun, 11 Nov 2018 15:50:28 -0500 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx05.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DEFC308624C; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:02:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from oldenburg.str.redhat.com (ovpn-116-74.ams2.redhat.com [10.36.116.74]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D44E55D736; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:02:09 +0000 (UTC) From: Florian Weimer To: "Michael Kerrisk \(man-pages\)" Cc: Willy Tarreau , Daniel Colascione , linux-kernel , Joel Fernandes , Linux API , Vlastimil Babka , Carlos O'Donell , "libc-alpha\@sourceware.org" Subject: Re: Official Linux system wrapper library? References: <20181111081725.GA30248@1wt.eu> <3664a508-ca74-4ff0-39a6-34543194a24e@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 12:02:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: <3664a508-ca74-4ff0-39a6-34543194a24e@gmail.com> (Michael Kerrisk's message of "Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:53:54 +0100") Message-ID: <878t1zx4gj.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.15 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.49]); Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:02:14 +0000 (UTC) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org * Michael Kerrisk: > I'm not sure I'd view the glibc position quite so harshly (although > it is disappointing to me that bug 6399 remains open). I think they > are simply short of people to work on this task. There was a lengthy > period where no syscall wrappers were being added (pretty much from > 2.16 to 2.24, as far as I can tell), but that has changed. People may have disappeared from glibc development who have objected to gettid. I thought this was the case with strlcpy/strlcat, but it was not. At present, it takes one semi-active glibc contributor to block addition of a system call. The process to override a sustained objection has never been used successfully, and it is a lot of work to get it even started. Thanks, Florian