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From: Punit Agrawal <punit.agrawal@arm.com>
To: Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 PATCH 2/7] KVM: Track the pid of the VM process
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2016 18:03:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878tv5hses.fsf@e105922-lin.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160906165749.GH23592@cbox> (Christoffer Dall's message of "Tue, 6 Sep 2016 18:57:49 +0200")

Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org> writes:

> On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 04:22:17PM +0100, Punit Agrawal wrote:
>> Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org> writes:
>> 
>> > On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 12:07:59PM +0100, Punit Agrawal wrote:
>> >> Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org> writes:
>> >> 
>> >> > On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 10:51:27AM +0100, Punit Agrawal wrote:
>> >> >> Hi Christoffer,
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org> writes:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 05, 2016 at 05:31:32PM +0100, Punit Agrawal wrote:
>> >> >> >> Userspace tools such as perf can be used to profile individual
>> >> >> >> processes.
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> Track the PID of the virtual machine process to match profiling requests
>> >> >> >> targeted at it. This can be used to take appropriate action to enable
>> >> >> >> the requested profiling operations for the VMs of interest.
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> Signed-off-by: Punit Agrawal <punit.agrawal@arm.com>
>> >> >> >> Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
>> >> >> >> Cc: "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>
>> >> >> >> Cc: Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>
>> >> >> >> Cc: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
>> >> >> >> ---
>> >> >> >>  include/linux/kvm_host.h | 1 +
>> >> >> >>  virt/kvm/kvm_main.c      | 2 ++
>> >> >> >>  2 files changed, 3 insertions(+)
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> diff --git a/include/linux/kvm_host.h b/include/linux/kvm_host.h
>> >> >> >> index 9c28b4d..7c42c94 100644
>> >> >> >> --- a/include/linux/kvm_host.h
>> >> >> >> +++ b/include/linux/kvm_host.h
>> >> >> >> @@ -374,6 +374,7 @@ struct kvm_memslots {
>> >> >> >>  struct kvm {
>> >> >> >>  	spinlock_t mmu_lock;
>> >> >> >>  	struct mutex slots_lock;
>> >> >> >> +	struct pid *pid;
>> >> >> >>  	struct mm_struct *mm; /* userspace tied to this vm */
>> >> >> >>  	struct kvm_memslots *memslots[KVM_ADDRESS_SPACE_NUM];
>> >> >> >>  	struct srcu_struct srcu;
>> >> >> >> diff --git a/virt/kvm/kvm_main.c b/virt/kvm/kvm_main.c
>> >> >> >> index 1950782..ab2535a 100644
>> >> >> >> --- a/virt/kvm/kvm_main.c
>> >> >> >> +++ b/virt/kvm/kvm_main.c
>> >> >> >> @@ -613,6 +613,7 @@ static struct kvm *kvm_create_vm(unsigned long type)
>> >> >> >>  	spin_lock_init(&kvm->mmu_lock);
>> >> >> >>  	atomic_inc(&current->mm->mm_count);
>> >> >> >>  	kvm->mm = current->mm;
>> >> >> >> +	kvm->pid = get_task_pid(current, PIDTYPE_PID);
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > How dooes this deal with threading?  Is the idea that the user by
>> >> >> > specifying the main thread's pid will enable trapping for all vcpu
>> >> >> > threads belonging to that VM?
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Yes that's correct - specifying the main thread PID will enable trapping
>> >> >> for the VM (all vcpus).
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> I am happy to move to a more suitable identifier if available.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >
>> >> > What is the 'main thread' ?
>> >> >
>> >> > Does something mandate that the VM is created by the thread group
>> >> > leader?  If not, is it not a bit strange from a user perspective, that
>> >> > you have to find the specific subthread pid that created the vm to
>> >> > enable this tracing for all vcpu threads and that the tgid doesn't work
>> >> > in this case?
>> >> 
>> >> Let me correct my terminology usage - the value recorded above (and used
>> >> to identify the VM) should be the tgid. It is confusing because 'ps'
>> >> reports it as pid.
>> >> 
>> >> I picked the value as existing KVM code already uses the PID of the
>> >> creating task (see kvm_create_vm_debugfs) to export VM statistics in
>> >> debugfs.
>> >> 
>> >> If I've got this wrong, then kvm_create_vm_debugfs also likely needs an
>> >> update.
>> >> 
>> >> What do you think?
>> >> 
>> > When you do get_task_pid(current, PIDTYPE_PID) it actually gets the
>> > kernel view of a PID which is the thead-id from userspace's point of
>> > view, right?
>> 
>> That makes sense. It seems to works here because the pid of the first
>> task is also the tgid of the group. And I reckon it's the same
>> assumption being made with debugfs code (more below).
>
> That is probably the implementation of all QEMU versions and kvmtool
> versions out there.
>
>> 
>> I've changed the first argument of the call to get_task_pid to
>> current->group_leader.
>> 
>> >
>> > I don't see why this has to be the same as the debugfs code, as there it
>> > makes potentially more sense to thread-specific, but for your case, are
>> > you not targeting the behavior that a user can do "ps aux | grep qemu"
>> > or whatever, and then set tracing for the reported PID (which is
>> > actually a tgid)?
>> 
>> The debugfs stats are not thread (vcpu) specific but for the VM.
>> 
>> Both values, debugfs and here, are being used to represent the VM to the
>> user. A mismatch in these identifiers will be very confusing.
>> 
>> If you agree, I can separately send a patch to address this for VM
>> debugfs directory as well.
>> 
>
> I don't know how the debugfs stuff is used or was intended, so I really
> can't speak for that.  It seems less weird to me with debugfs, because I
> imagine it can be used by simply looking at what exists in the debugfs
> directory and mapping that to a VM.

Ok, I'll let debugfs stuff be as is then.

>
> In your case, there's a clear expectation from the user that using the
> tgid should cover this VM, and it will be weird if that's not the
> case.

Right. Switching over to current->group_leader should avert problems if
userspace tools do things differently.

Thanks,
Punit

>
> -Christoffer
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  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-06 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-05 16:31 [RFC v2 PATCH 0/7] Add support for monitoring guest TLB operations Punit Agrawal
2016-09-05 16:31 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 1/7] perf/trace: Add notification for perf trace events Punit Agrawal
2016-09-05 16:31 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 2/7] KVM: Track the pid of the VM process Punit Agrawal
2016-09-06  6:22   ` Christoffer Dall
2016-09-06  9:51     ` Punit Agrawal
2016-09-06 10:25       ` Christoffer Dall
2016-09-06 11:07         ` Punit Agrawal
2016-09-06 11:22           ` Christoffer Dall
2016-09-06 15:22             ` Punit Agrawal
2016-09-06 16:57               ` Christoffer Dall
2016-09-06 17:03                 ` Punit Agrawal [this message]
2016-09-05 16:31 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 3/7] KVM: arm/arm64: Register perf trace event notifier Punit Agrawal
2016-09-06  6:36   ` Christoffer Dall
2016-09-06 16:10     ` Punit Agrawal
2016-09-05 16:31 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 4/7] arm64: tlbflush.h: add __tlbi() macro Punit Agrawal
2016-09-06  6:38   ` Christoffer Dall
2016-09-06 10:05     ` Punit Agrawal
2016-09-06 10:39       ` Christoffer Dall
2016-09-06 18:17   ` Will Deacon
2016-09-05 16:31 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 5/7] arm64/kvm: hyp: tlb: use __tlbi() helper Punit Agrawal
2016-09-06  6:39   ` Christoffer Dall
2016-09-05 16:31 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 6/7] arm64: KVM: Handle trappable TLB instructions Punit Agrawal
2016-09-06 10:21   ` Christoffer Dall
2016-09-06 15:44     ` Punit Agrawal
2016-09-06 16:59       ` Christoffer Dall
2016-09-05 16:31 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 7/7] arm64: KVM: Enable selective trapping of " Punit Agrawal
2016-09-06 10:24   ` Christoffer Dall
2016-09-06 11:33     ` Punit Agrawal

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