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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Enke Chen <enkechen@cisco.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] kernel/signal: Signal-based pre-coredump notification
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 10:09:34 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bm7ukjwx.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181016141405.GA22045@redhat.com> (Oleg Nesterov's message of "Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:14:06 +0200")

Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> writes:

> On 10/15, Enke Chen wrote:
>>
>> > I don't understand why we need valid_predump_signal() at all.
>>
>> Most of the signals have well-defined semantics, and would not be appropriate
>> for this purpose.
>
> you are going to change the rules anyway.

I will just add that CLD_XXX is only valid with SIGCHLD as they are
signal specific si_codes.  In conjunction with another signal like
SIGUSR it will have another meaning.  I would really appreciate it
if new code does not further complicate siginfo_layout.

>> That is why it is limited to only SIGCHLD, SIGUSR1, SIGUSR2.
>
> Which do not queue. So the parent won't get the 2nd signal if 2 children
> crash at the same time.

We do best effort queueing but we don't guarantee anything.  So yes
this makes signals a very louzy interface for sending this kind of
information.

>> >>  		if (sig_kernel_coredump(signr)) {
>> >> +			/*
>> >> +			 * Notify the parent prior to the coredump if the
>> >> +			 * parent is interested in such a notificaiton.
>> >> +			 */
>> >> +			int p_sig = current->real_parent->predump_signal;
>> >> +
>> >> +			if (valid_predump_signal(p_sig)) {
>> >> +				read_lock(&tasklist_lock);
>> >> +				do_notify_parent_predump(current);
>> >> +				read_unlock(&tasklist_lock);
>> >> +				cond_resched();
>> >
>> > perhaps this should be called by do_coredump() after coredump_wait() kills
>> > all the sub-threads?
>>
>> proc_coredump_connector(current) is located here, they should stay together.
>
> Why?
>
> Once again, other threads are still alive. So if the parent restarts the service
> after it recieves -predump_signal, the new process can "race" with the old thread.

Yes.  It isn't until do_coredump calls coredump_wait that all of the
threads are killed.

Eric


  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-16 15:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-13  0:33 [PATCH] kernel/signal: Signal-based pre-coredump notification Enke Chen
2018-10-13  6:40 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-15 18:16   ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 18:43     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-15 18:49       ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 18:58         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-13 10:44 ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-15 18:39   ` Enke Chen
2018-10-13 18:27 ` Jann Horn
2018-10-15 18:36   ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 18:54     ` Jann Horn
2018-10-15 19:23       ` Enke Chen
2018-10-19 23:01       ` Enke Chen
2018-10-22 15:40         ` Jann Horn
2018-10-22 20:48           ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 12:05 ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-15 18:54   ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 19:17   ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 19:26     ` Enke Chen
2018-10-16 14:14     ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-16 15:09       ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2018-10-17  0:39       ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 21:21 ` Alan Cox
2018-10-15 21:31   ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 23:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-16  0:33   ` valdis.kletnieks
2018-10-16  0:54   ` Enke Chen
2018-10-16 15:26     ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-22 21:09 ` [PATCH v2] " Enke Chen
2018-10-23  9:23   ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-23 19:43     ` Enke Chen
2018-10-23 21:40       ` Enke Chen
2018-10-24 13:52       ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-24 21:56         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-24  5:39   ` [PATCH v3] " Enke Chen
2018-10-24 14:02     ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-24 22:02       ` Enke Chen
2018-10-25 22:56     ` [PATCH v4] " Enke Chen
2018-10-26  8:28       ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-26 22:23         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-29 11:18           ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-29 21:08             ` Enke Chen
2018-10-29 22:31             ` [PATCH v5] " Enke Chen
2018-10-30 16:46               ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-31  0:25                 ` Enke Chen
2018-11-22  0:37                 ` Andrew Morton
2018-11-22  1:09                   ` Enke Chen
2018-11-22  1:18                     ` Enke Chen
2018-11-22  1:33                     ` Andrew Morton
2018-11-22  4:57                       ` Enke Chen
2018-11-12 23:22               ` Enke Chen
2018-11-27 22:54               ` [PATCH v5 1/2] " Enke Chen
2018-11-28 15:19                 ` Dave Martin
2018-11-29  0:15                   ` Enke Chen
2018-11-29 11:55                     ` Dave Martin
2018-11-30  0:27                       ` Enke Chen
2018-11-30 12:03                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-12-05  6:47                       ` Jann Horn
2018-12-04 22:37                     ` Andrew Morton
2018-12-06 17:29                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-25 22:56     ` [PATCH] selftests/prctl: selftest for pre-coredump signal notification Enke Chen
2018-11-27 22:54       ` [PATCH v5 2/2] " Enke Chen
2018-10-24 13:29   ` [PATCH v2] kernel/signal: Signal-based pre-coredump notification Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-24 23:50     ` Enke Chen
2018-10-25 12:23       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-25 20:45         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-25 21:24         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-25 21:56         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-25 13:45     ` Jann Horn
2018-10-25 20:21       ` Eric W. Biederman

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