From: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Sultan Alsawaf <sultan@kerneltoast.com>,
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Subject: Re: printk deadlock due to double lock attempt on current CPU's runqueue
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2021 11:13:37 +0106 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fss4wcgm.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YYuS1uNhxWOEX1Ci@phenom.ffwll.local>
On 2021-11-10, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> I'm a bit out of the loop but from lwn articles my understanding is
> that part of upstreaming from -rt we no longer have the explicit "I'm
> a safe console for direct printing" opt-in. Which I get from a
> backwards compat pov, but I still think for at least fbcon we really
> should never attempt a direct printk con->write, it's just all around
> terrible.
Right now we don't have an explicit "I'm a safe console for direct
printing" option. Right now all printing is direct. But it sounds to me
that we should add this console flag when we introduce kthread printers.
> So yeah for fbcon at least I think we really should throw out direct
> con->write from printk completely.
Even after we introduce kthread printers, there will still be situations
where direct printing is used: booting (before kthreads exist) and
shutdown/suspend/crash situations, when the kthreads may not be
active.
I will introduce a console flag so that consoles can opt-out for direct
printing. (opt-out rather than opt-in is probably easier, since there
are only a few that would need to opt-out).
Since kthread printers do not yet exist (hoping to get them in for
5.17), I am not sure how we should address the reported bug for existing
kernels.
John Ogness
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-11-10 10:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-11-09 20:06 printk deadlock due to double lock attempt on current CPU's runqueue Sultan Alsawaf
2021-11-09 21:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-10 9:00 ` Vincent Guittot
2021-11-10 10:45 ` Michal Koutný
2021-11-10 19:50 ` Sultan Alsawaf
2021-11-12 7:50 ` Vincent Guittot
2021-11-10 9:37 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-11-10 10:07 ` John Ogness [this message]
2021-11-10 10:44 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-11-10 20:03 ` Sultan Alsawaf
2021-11-11 8:28 ` John Ogness
2021-11-11 9:27 ` Petr Mladek
2021-11-10 10:50 ` Petr Mladek
2021-11-10 11:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-10 13:21 ` Daniel Vetter
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