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From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
To: "Bae\, Chang Seok via Libc-alpha" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>, "Bae\,
	Chang Seok" <chang.seok.bae@intel.com>,
	"linux-arch\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Brown\, Len" <len.brown@intel.com>, "Luck\,
	Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	"jannh\@google.com" <jannh@google.com>,
	"x86\@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Dave.Martin\@arm.com" <Dave.Martin@arm.com>, "Hansen\,
	Dave" <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	"luto\@kernel.org" <luto@kernel.org>,
	"linux-api\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"mingo\@kernel.org" <mingo@kernel.org>, "Shankar\,
	Ravi V" <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 5/6] x86/signal: Detect and prevent an alternate signal stack overflow
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2021 21:14:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o8f7j8ik.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <06722BDE-738A-4513-886E-2C1442C97369@intel.com> (Chang Seok via Libc-alpha Bae's message of "Thu, 25 Mar 2021 17:21:04 +0000")

* Chang Seok via Libc-alpha Bae:

> On Mar 25, 2021, at 09:20, Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de> wrote:
>> 
>> $ gcc tst-minsigstksz-2.c -DMY_MINSIGSTKSZ=3453 -o tst-minsigstksz-2
>> $ ./tst-minsigstksz-2
>> tst-minsigstksz-2: changed byte 50 bytes below configured stack
>> 
>> Whoops.
>> 
>> And the debug print said:
>> 
>> [ 5395.252884] signal: get_sigframe: sp: 0x7f54ec39e7b8, sas_ss_sp: 0x7f54ec39e6ce, sas_ss_size 0xd7d
>> 
>> which tells me that, AFAICT, your check whether we have enough alt stack
>> doesn't seem to work in this case.
>
> Yes, in this case.
>
> tst-minsigstksz-2.c has this code:
>
> static void
> handler (int signo)
> {
>   /* Clear a bit of on-stack memory.  */
>   volatile char buffer[256];
>   for (size_t i = 0; i < sizeof (buffer); ++i)
>     buffer[i] = 0;
>   handler_run = 1;
> }
> …
>
>   if (handler_run != 1)
>     errx (1, "handler did not run");
>
>   for (void *p = stack_buffer; p < stack_bottom; ++p)
>     if (*(unsigned char *) p != 0xCC)
>       errx (1, "changed byte %zd bytes below configured stack\n",
>             stack_bottom - p);
> …
>
> I think the message comes from the handler’s overwriting, not from the kernel.
>
> The patch's check is to detect and prevent the kernel-induced overflow --
> whether alt stack enough for signal delivery itself.  The stack is possibly
> not enough for the signal handler's use as the kernel does not know for it.

Ahh, right.  When I wrote the test, I didn't know which turn the
kernel would eventually take, so the test is quite arbitrary.

The glibc dynamic loader uses XSAVE/XSAVEC as well, so you can
probably double the practical stack requirement if lazy binding is in
use and can be triggered from the signal handler.  Estimating stack
sizes is hard.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-25 20:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-16  6:52 [PATCH v7 0/6] x86: Improve Minimum Alternate Stack Size Chang S. Bae
2021-03-16  6:52 ` [PATCH v7 1/6] uapi: Define the aux vector AT_MINSIGSTKSZ Chang S. Bae
2021-03-16  6:52 ` [PATCH v7 2/6] x86/signal: Introduce helpers to get the maximum signal frame size Chang S. Bae
2021-03-16  6:52 ` [PATCH v7 3/6] x86/elf: Support a new ELF aux vector AT_MINSIGSTKSZ Chang S. Bae
2021-03-16  6:52 ` [PATCH v7 4/6] selftest/sigaltstack: Use the AT_MINSIGSTKSZ aux vector if available Chang S. Bae
2021-03-16  6:52 ` [PATCH v7 5/6] x86/signal: Detect and prevent an alternate signal stack overflow Chang S. Bae
2021-03-16 11:52   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-03-16 18:26     ` Bae, Chang Seok
2021-03-25 16:20       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-03-25 17:21         ` Bae, Chang Seok
2021-03-25 20:14           ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2021-03-25 18:13   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-03-25 18:54     ` Borislav Petkov
2021-03-25 21:11       ` Bae, Chang Seok
2021-03-25 21:27         ` Borislav Petkov
2021-03-26  4:56       ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-03-26 10:30         ` Borislav Petkov
2021-04-12 22:30           ` Bae, Chang Seok
2021-04-14 10:12             ` Borislav Petkov
2021-04-14 11:30               ` Florian Weimer
2021-04-14 12:06                 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-05-03  5:30                   ` Florian Weimer
2021-05-03 11:17                     ` Borislav Petkov
2021-03-26  4:58     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-03-16  6:52 ` [PATCH v7 6/6] selftest/x86/signal: Include test cases for validating sigaltstack Chang S. Bae
2021-03-17 10:06 ` [PATCH v7 0/6] x86: Improve Minimum Alternate Stack Size Ingo Molnar
2021-03-17 10:44   ` Ingo Molnar
2021-03-19 18:12     ` Len Brown
2021-03-20 17:32       ` Ingo Molnar

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