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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 9/9] x86: Disallow vsyscall emulation when CET is enabled
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 11:14:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pn7f9jeq.fsf@oldenburg2.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrVXwUDu2m-XEd-_J03L=sricM4cMxQYVkdGRWZDjmMB2g@mail.gmail.com> (Andy Lutomirski's message of "Mon, 24 Aug 2020 17:32:35 -0700")

* Andy Lutomirski:

> On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 5:30 PM Yu-cheng Yu <yu-cheng.yu@intel.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>
>>
>> Emulation of the legacy vsyscall page is required by some programs built
>> before 2013.  Newer programs after 2013 don't use it.  Disallow vsyscall
>> emulation when Control-flow Enforcement (CET) is enabled to enhance
>> security.
>
> NAK.
>
> By all means disable execute emulation if CET-IBT is enabled at the
> time emulation is attempted, and maybe even disable the vsyscall page
> entirely if you can magically tell that CET-IBT will be enabled when a
> process starts, but you don't get to just disable it outright on a
> CET-enabled kernel.

Yeah, we definitely would have to revert/avoid this downstream.  People
definitely want to run glibc-2.12-era workloads on current kernels.
Thanks for catching it.

Florian


  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-25  9:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-25  0:26 [PATCH v11 0/9] Control-flow Enforcement: Indirect Branch Tracking, PTRACE Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:26 ` [PATCH v11 1/9] x86/cet/ibt: Add Kconfig option for user-mode Indirect Branch Tracking Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:26 ` [PATCH v11 2/9] x86/cet/ibt: User-mode Indirect Branch Tracking support Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:26 ` [PATCH v11 3/9] x86/cet/ibt: Handle signals for Indirect Branch Tracking Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:26 ` [PATCH v11 4/9] x86/cet/ibt: ELF header parsing " Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:26 ` [PATCH v11 5/9] x86/cet/ibt: Update arch_prctl functions " Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:26 ` [PATCH v11 6/9] x86/cet: Add PTRACE interface for CET Yu-cheng Yu
2020-09-02 20:03   ` Jann Horn
2020-09-02 22:13     ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-09-02 23:50       ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-03  2:53         ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-09-03  4:35           ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-03 14:26             ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-03 14:54               ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-03 16:09               ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-09-03 16:11                 ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-03 16:15                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-03 16:25                     ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-03 16:32                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-03 16:42                         ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-03 17:59                           ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-09-03 16:21                   ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-09-03 16:25                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-03  0:33       ` Jann Horn
2020-09-03  2:53         ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-08-25  0:26 ` [PATCH v11 7/9] x86/vdso/32: Add ENDBR32 to __kernel_vsyscall entry point Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:26 ` [PATCH v11 8/9] x86/vdso: Insert endbr32/endbr64 to vDSO Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:33   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-08-25 16:13     ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-08-25  0:26 ` [PATCH v11 9/9] x86: Disallow vsyscall emulation when CET is enabled Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:32   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-08-25  9:14     ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2020-08-25 15:08       ` Yu, Yu-cheng

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