From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264294AbTKMNz0 (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:55:26 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264298AbTKMNz0 (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:55:26 -0500 Received: from relay1.miee.ru ([213.171.53.133]:49415 "EHLO gulipin.miee.ru") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264294AbTKMNzU (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:55:20 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:59:42 +0300 Message-ID: <87r80c5sqp.wl@drakkar.ibe.miee.ru> From: Samium Gromoff To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org CC: andrea@suse.de, Arch Users Mailing List Subject: Re: kernel.bkbits.net off the air User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.10.1 (Watching The Wheels) SEMI/1.14.5 (Awara-Onsen) FLIM/1.14.5 (Demachiyanagi) APEL/10.6 Emacs/21.3 (i386-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.5 - "Awara-Onsen") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 03:52:15PM -0800, Larry McVoy wrote: > > going to start a flame war. So I won't. I will note that none of the > > solutions proposed come close to being acceptable, they all fail on NFS > > and on SMB shares. And they don't cascade properly as HPA has noted. > > FWIW arch would solve this completely too, but we need to checkout a > coherent cvs to import the data into arch. Okay, folks. Now i propose to go further than that. I hope that Larry recognises that at some point the linux kernel community _will_ switch to a free software alternative. I think we should have a better choice than the lossy bk->cvs. I propose we as a whole ask Larry to create a bk->arch gateway _not_ via cvs but directly, and therefore using all the extended metadata possible. - this way we`ll get whole-tree changesets, file renames etc. - this way Larry will have a terrific argument to shut whiners. The choice of Arch is not random, but motivated by my belief in that it is the leading Free Software revision control effort. If Larry wishes to give a birth to this idea, the list to contact is: gnu-arch-users@gnu.org regards, Samium Gromoff