Hi, Peter Chen writes: >> >> >> > So, unless we use OTG FSM defined in OTG spec, we should not mention >> >> >> > "OTG" in Linux, right? >> >> >> >> >> >> to avoid confusion with the terminology, yes. With that settled, let's >> >> >> figure out how you can deliver what your marketting guys are asking of >> >> >> you. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Since nxp SoC claims they are OTG compliance, we need to pass usb.org >> >> > test. The internal bsp has passed PET test, and formal compliance test >> >> > is on the way (should pass too). >> >> > >> >> > The dual-role and OTG compliance use the same zImage, but different >> >> > dtb. >> >> >> >> okay, that's good to know. Now, the question really is: considering we >> >> only have one user for this generic OTG FSM layer, do we really need to >> >> make it generic at all? I mean, just look at how invasive a change that >> >> is. >> > >> > If the chipidea is the only user for this roger's framework, I don't >> > think it is necessary. In fact, Roger introduces this framework, and >> > the first user is dwc3, we think it can be used for others. Let's >> >> Right, we need to look at the history of dwc3 to figure out why the >> conclusion that dwc3 needs this was made. >> >> Roger started working on this framework when Power on Reset section of >> databook had some details which weren't always clear and, for safety, we >> always had reset asserted for a really long time. It was so long (about >> 400 ms) that resetting dwc3 for each role swap was just too much. >> >> Coupled with that, the OTG chapter wasn't very clear either on >> expections from Host and Peripheral side initialization in OTG/DRD >> systems. >> >> More recent version of dwc3 databook have a much better description of >> how and which reset bits _must_ be asserted and which shouldn't be >> touched unless it's for debugging purposes. When I implemented that, our >> ->probe() went from 400ms down to about 50us. >> >> Coupled with that, the OTG chapter also became a lot clearer to the >> point that it states you just don't initialize anything other than the >> OTG block, and just wait for OTG interrupt to do whatever it is you need >> to do. >> >> This meant that we could actually afford to do full reinitialization of >> dwc3 on role swap (it's now only 50us anyway) and we knew how to swap >> roles properly. >> >> (The reason for needing soft-reset during role swap is kinda long. But >> in summary dwc3 shadows register writes to both host and peripheral >> sides) >> >> > just discuss if it is necessary for dual-role switch. >> >> fair. However, if we have a single user we don't have a Generic >> layer. There's not enough variance to come up with truly generic >> architecture for this. >> >> -- > > I have put some points in my last reply [1], I summery it here to > see if a generic framework is deserved or not? > > 1. If there are some parts we can use during the role switch > - The common start/stop host and peripheral operation > eg, when switch from host to peripheral, all drivers can use > usb_remove_hcd to finish it. a UDC such as dwc3 already implements start/stop for peripheral and host. Why would go through and indirection layer that just comes back to us? (well, dwc3's host side, start/stop translates to adding/removing xhci-plat's device) > - A common workqueue to handle vbus and id event I already have a threaded IRQ handler. Why do I need a workqueue? > - sysfs for role switch A generic sysfs is desirable, but I really don't know where to put it. Maybe it's enough to go down the hwmon route and just have an agreement of filename and contents to be written to. -- balbi