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From: Stewart Smith <stewart@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	linux-next@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: linux-next: build failure after merge of the driver-core tree
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 11:00:58 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87siqggyth.fsf@river.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140317215619.GA25228@kroah.com>

Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> writes:
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 07:33:30AM +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
>> On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 11:33 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
>> 
>> > There were only 3 (or 4), users of this api, and no new ones had been
>> > added in _years_, it's a very obscure thing, and odds are, it wouldn't
>> > ever be added again, especially as it was just removed entirely not
>> > being needed anymore.  And I'd argue, it's something that you shouldn't
>> > have even been doing in the first place, so why a new user of it was
>> > added now is quite strange to me.
>> 
>> Actually that's a good question. Is there a better way for us than to
>> use this API ? Essentially we use that because it's our understanding
>> that it is what is needed for a sysfs file that can remove its parent
>> directory from within a write() op.
>> 
>> We followed the driver "remove" implementation as an example.
>> 
>> The reason the opal elog and dump patches use it is that those two
>> patches add sysfs interface that represent the error logs (and platform
>> dumps but you can treat the latter as some kind of special case of error
>> logs) from the service processor in sysfs.
>> 
>> So for each log we create a dir (kobject) which we populate with a few
>> things like the log unique ID, raw data, etc.... and a file that can be
>> used to "ack" the log with the service processor.
>> 
>> The latter has the effect of removing it. This is done by the collection
>> daemon after it has confirmed that the error log has been stored to disk
>> and properly flushed.
>> 
>> Is there a better interface ? Can we implement for example unlink() on
>> the kobject itself ? IE. Do the ack by essentially having userspace rm
>> the directory ? :-)
>
> No you can't, sorry.
>
> And this seems like a huge abuse of sysfs, you better be using binary
> sysfs files for your log data...

We are. It's a binary format we get from the service processor that we
then parse in userspace.

Seeing as each of these log entries is a separate thing that can be
retrieved and acknowledged to the service processor, it seemed fitting
to have each of them exposed to userspace so that policy can be dictated
there (acking them removes them from FSP and we have use cases for
peeking at them)

If there's a better way, I'd be interested in hearing it - it appeared
to be relatively good fit for sysfs (no sysadmin overhead, busybox has
enough utility to semi-meaningfully poke at it).

> Do you have a pointer to where you document this sysfs api in
> Documentation/ABI/ ?

Yes:
- Documentation/ABI/stable/sysfs-firmware-opal-dump
- Documentation/ABI/stable/sysfs-firmware-opal-elog

>> Now regarding the practicals of sorting out our trees, Stephen suggested
>> that rather than doing anything on my side (heh, I like that !), you
>> should revert the last patch of the series, the one removing the old
>> API, in your tree.
>> 
>> It can then be re-applied later around rc1.
>
> I'll look to see if we can do that, let me dig it up out of my tree...

Thanks. The new API looks like it should work fine for us, I'll be sure
to covert my API usage and let you know.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-03-18  0:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 181+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-12  0:51 linux-next: build failure after merge of the driver-core tree Mark Brown
2014-03-12  1:50 ` Greg KH
2014-03-12  3:55   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-03-12 11:37     ` Mark Brown
2014-03-12 19:59       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-03-12 20:02         ` Tejun Heo
2014-03-12 20:14           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-03-12 20:21             ` Tejun Heo
2014-03-13  0:37               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-03-13 22:14                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-03-14 13:00                   ` Tejun Heo
2014-03-15  0:03                   ` Greg KH
2014-03-15  2:57                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-03-15  5:29                       ` Greg KH
2014-03-15  7:14                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-03-16 23:16                         ` Stephen Rothwell
2014-03-17 18:36                           ` Greg KH
2014-03-16 23:16   ` Stephen Rothwell
2014-03-17 18:33     ` Greg KH
2014-03-17 20:33       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-03-17 21:56         ` Greg KH
2014-03-17 22:05           ` Tejun Heo
2014-03-17 22:21             ` Tejun Heo
2014-03-18  0:07               ` Stewart Smith
2014-03-18  0:22               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-03-18 15:58                 ` Tejun Heo
2014-03-18  0:00           ` Stewart Smith [this message]
2014-03-18  0:16           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-03-17  8:28 ` Stephen Rothwell
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-08-15  7:24 Stephen Rothwell
2023-08-15 15:21 ` Greg KH
2023-08-16  7:39   ` Maxime Ripard
2023-04-11  4:38 Stephen Rothwell
2023-04-11  9:55 ` Daniel Vetter
2023-04-11 10:40   ` Greg KH
2023-04-11 15:01     ` Daniel Vetter
2023-04-11 15:08       ` Jeffrey Hugo
2023-04-11 15:13         ` Greg KH
2023-04-11 15:26           ` Jeffrey Hugo
2023-04-11 15:29             ` Jeffrey Hugo
2023-04-11 16:31               ` Daniel Vetter
2023-04-11 17:18                 ` Jeffrey Hugo
2023-04-11 18:21                   ` Daniel Vetter
2023-04-11 18:37                     ` Jeffrey Hugo
2023-04-11 18:47                       ` Daniel Vetter
2023-04-12  6:11                         ` Greg KH
2023-03-27  4:46 Stephen Rothwell
2023-03-27  7:33 ` Greg KH
2023-03-27  8:22   ` Stephen Rothwell
2023-03-27  9:15     ` Greg KH
2023-03-27 15:09       ` Vasily Gorbik
2023-01-30  4:28 Stephen Rothwell
2023-01-30 16:01 ` Greg KH
2023-01-30 16:23   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-12-01  2:18 Stephen Rothwell
2022-11-30  1:38 Stephen Rothwell
2022-11-30 12:01 ` Greg KH
2022-11-28  2:36 Stephen Rothwell
2022-11-28 11:50 ` Greg KH
2022-11-28 12:44   ` Stephen Rothwell
2022-11-28 16:22     ` Greg KH
2022-11-28 19:46       ` Stephen Rothwell
2022-11-29  8:28         ` Greg KH
2022-11-28 17:35     ` Greg KH
2022-11-14  4:12 Stephen Rothwell
2022-11-14  8:46 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-11-14  8:59   ` Greg KH
2021-07-23  5:09 Stephen Rothwell
2021-07-23  5:34 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-08-10 12:13   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-08-12 20:51     ` Doug Anderson
2021-02-10 10:47 Stephen Rothwell
2021-02-10 18:18 ` Greg KH
2021-02-10 19:06   ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-10 19:17     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-10 19:36       ` Greg KH
2021-02-10 20:14       ` Rob Herring
2021-02-10 20:43         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-10 20:59           ` Rob Herring
2020-09-09  5:47 Stephen Rothwell
2020-09-09  7:21 ` Greg KH
2020-09-09 21:47   ` Kees Cook
2020-09-09  7:28 ` Greg KH
2020-07-27  6:55 Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-27 10:17 ` Greg KH
2020-07-28 19:53   ` Kees Cook
2019-09-18 17:09 Mark Brown
2019-09-18 18:52 ` Greg KH
2019-09-18 19:03   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-18 19:07     ` Greg KH
2019-09-18 20:56       ` Suzuki K Poulose
2019-09-18 21:55     ` Mark Brown
2019-08-29  7:35 Stephen Rothwell
2019-08-29 10:10 ` Greg KH
2019-02-01  2:41 Stephen Rothwell
2019-02-01 14:18 ` Greg KH
2017-06-13  6:04 Stephen Rothwell
2017-06-13  6:20 ` Greg KH
2017-06-13  6:25   ` Stephen Rothwell
2017-06-13  6:30   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-05-02  5:42 Stephen Rothwell
2016-05-02 11:40 ` William Breathitt Gray
2016-05-02 14:47   ` Greg KH
2015-05-21  7:52 Stephen Rothwell
2014-12-01  7:49 Stephen Rothwell
2014-05-28  8:03 Stephen Rothwell
2014-05-28  9:30 ` Jean Delvare
2013-08-22  5:39 Stephen Rothwell
2013-08-22 15:36 ` Greg KH
2013-01-18  2:29 Stephen Rothwell
2013-01-18  4:13 ` Greg KH
2013-01-18 14:14   ` Kondratiev, Vladimir
2012-08-17  4:01 Stephen Rothwell
2012-08-17 13:25 ` Greg KH
2012-07-10  5:32 Stephen Rothwell
2012-07-10  9:03 ` Mark Brown
2012-07-10 11:14   ` Stephen Rothwell
2012-07-10 21:10     ` Linus Walleij
2012-05-01  4:59 Stephen Rothwell
2012-05-01  7:05 ` Bart Van Assche
2012-05-01 13:45 ` Greg KH
2012-04-19  4:48 Stephen Rothwell
2012-04-19 20:07 ` Greg KH
2012-04-20  2:19 ` Greg KH
2012-01-27  2:59 Stephen Rothwell
2012-01-27 15:24 ` Alan Stern
2012-01-27 22:36 ` Greg KH
2012-01-05  6:28 Stephen Rothwell
2012-01-05 23:20 ` Greg KH
2011-12-28  6:45 Stephen Rothwell
2012-01-03 16:21 ` Greg KH
2012-01-04  0:07   ` Kay Sievers
2012-01-04  0:31     ` Greg KH
2012-01-04 22:03       ` Kay Sievers
2012-01-04 23:13         ` Greg KH
2012-01-04 23:07 ` Greg KH
2012-01-04 23:48   ` Stephen Rothwell
2012-01-05  0:01     ` Kay Sievers
2012-01-05  0:17       ` Stephen Rothwell
2012-01-05  0:57       ` Josh Triplett
2011-12-15  6:37 Stephen Rothwell
2011-12-15  7:21 ` Greg KH
2011-12-15 10:10   ` Kay Sievers
2011-12-15 19:09     ` Greg KH
2011-12-14  4:48 Stephen Rothwell
2011-12-14  9:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-14 15:03   ` Greg KH
2011-12-14 15:13     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-14 17:01       ` Greg KH
2011-12-14 19:24         ` Greg KH
2011-11-21  1:57 Stephen Rothwell
2010-08-04  4:25 Stephen Rothwell
2010-08-04  4:44 ` Guenter Roeck
2010-08-04 15:52 ` Greg KH
2010-08-04 21:24 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-18  6:45 Stephen Rothwell
2010-05-18  7:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-05-18  7:48   ` Al Viro
2010-05-18  7:54   ` Stephen Rothwell
2010-05-18 10:35     ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-05-18 15:02       ` Al Viro
2010-05-18 19:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-05-18 21:25   ` Greg KH
2010-05-18 21:59     ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-05-18  6:44 Stephen Rothwell
2010-05-18 14:02 ` Greg KH
2010-05-18 14:04   ` Chris Wright
2010-05-18 21:06   ` Chris Wright
2010-05-18 21:24     ` Greg KH
2010-03-17  4:41 Stephen Rothwell
2010-03-17  7:21 ` Neil Brown
2010-03-17 15:51   ` Sage Weil
2010-03-17 22:30     ` Stephen Rothwell
2010-03-24  1:37     ` Neil Brown
2010-03-24 14:54       ` Sage Weil
2010-03-03  6:14 Stephen Rothwell
2010-03-03  6:31 ` Stephen Rothwell
2010-02-16  6:39 Stephen Rothwell
2010-02-16  9:01 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-17  4:56   ` Greg KH
2010-02-18  4:27     ` Greg KH

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