From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A13ECDE44 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2018 21:20:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A6320836 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2018 21:20:26 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org C8A6320836 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=brown.name Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728156AbeJVFgF (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Oct 2018 01:36:05 -0400 Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:53744 "EHLO mx1.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727009AbeJVFgF (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Oct 2018 01:36:05 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Duplicate header field: "To" Received: from relay2.suse.de (unknown [195.135.220.254]) by mx1.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 892EBAC11; Sun, 21 Oct 2018 21:20:22 +0000 (UTC) From: NeilBrown To: Greg Kroah-Hartman , linux-kernel To: Linus Torvalds Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 08:20:11 +1100 Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Thomas Gleixner , Olof Johansson , Chris Mason , Mishi Choudhary Subject: Call to Action Re: [PATCH 0/7] Code of Conduct: Fix some wording, and add an interpretation document In-Reply-To: <20181020134908.GA32218@kroah.com> References: <20181020134908.GA32218@kroah.com> Message-ID: <87y3ar80ac.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 20 2018, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > Hi all, > > As everyone knows by now, we added a new Code of Conduct to the kernel > tree a few weeks ago. I wanted to stay detached from all this, but as remaining (publicly) silent might be seen (publicly) as acquiescing, I hereby declare that: I reject, as illegitimate, this Code and the process by which it is being "developed". It is clear from the surrounding discussions that this is well outside our core competencies. It will be flawed, it isn't what we need. I call on any other community members who reject this process to say so, not to remain silent. #Iobject We don't need a "Code of Conduct" nearly as much as we need "Leadership in conduct". Without the leadership, any code looks like a joke. I call on Linus Torvalds to follow up on his confession (which I think is momentous and worth celebrating - Hurray!!!) with repentance - a clear demonstration of change of mind. Linus: I know your intentions are good and am confident that, now that you see the problem, you will be able to effect a solution. If you are not so confident, please be aware that there are many in the community who can see clearly where you were blind, and are willing to help guide and coach. Please reach out to someone you trust, and ask. I call on the community to respond to this confession and repentance from Linus with forgiveness and restoration. I have no direct hurts to report and little to forgive, so my forgiveness can only be worth little. However, for what it is worth: I offer to Linus, and to any who are seeking to improve their behaviour, my forgiveness for any past hurts, whether direct or indirect. I hold no grudge, and wish to continue working together as the need and opportunity arises. #Iforgive I call on the community to effect whatever reparation is possible to those who have been hurt. Sometimes an apology is all that is possible, sometimes it is all that is needed. If you are ever in a position to do more, please consider doing so. On behalf of my community, I apologise to all those who have been hurt by us, for the lack of respect and care which should have been shown. Where I have hurt you, whether through action or inaction, I unreservedly apologise. #Iapologise (or #Iapologize :-) I call on you, Greg: - to abandon this divisive attempt to impose a "Code of Conduct" - to revert 8a104f8b5867c68 - to return to your core competence of building a great team around a great kernel #Isupportreversion I call on the community to consider what *does* need to be said, about conduct, to people outside the community and who have recently joined. What is the document that you would have liked to have read as you were starting out? It is all too long ago for me to remember clearly, and so much has changed. 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