From: Nix <nix@esperi.org.uk>
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
"Bryan Schumaker" <bjschuma@netapp.com>,
"Peng Tao" <bergwolf@gmail.com>,
Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
"Toralf Förster" <toralf.foerster@gmx.de>,
"Eric Sandeen" <sandeen@redhat.com>,
stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Apparent serious progressive ext4 data corruption bug in 3.6.3 (and other stable branches?)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 00:34:42 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y5iwlq3x.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121023232813.GF28626@thunk.org> (Theodore Ts'o's message of "Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:28:13 -0400")
On 24 Oct 2012, Theodore Ts'o told this:
> hurt, but we do want to make 100% sure that it really fixes the
> problem.
Well, yes, that would be nice. I can certainly try to verify that it
stops my filesystems getting corrupted. (And if so, I owe you a
$BEVERAGE. Though I suspect I owe you about three million of those
already for other code written in the past.)
>> The bug did really quite a lot of damage to my /home fs in only a few
>> minutes of uptime, given how few files I wrote to it. What it could have
>> done to a more conventional distro install with everything including
>> /home on one filesystem, I shudder to think.
>
> Well, the problem won't show up if the journal has wrapped. So it
> will only show up if the system has been rebooted twice in fairly
> quick succession. A full conventional distro install probably
> wouldn't have triggered a bug...
A full *install* from scratch, no. I was more worried about the
possibility of someone running -stable kernels on an existing distro
installation, and shutting down every night (given what's been happening
to UK electricity prices in the last few years I suspect there are quite
a lot of people doing that in the UK to save power). If they happen not
to do much on one particular day other than a bit of light distro
updating, they could perfectly well end up roasting things touched
during the distro update. Things like glibc :(
> although someone who habitually
> reboots their laptop instead of using suspend/resume or hiberbate, or
> someone who is trying to bisect the kernel looking for some other bug
> could easily trip over this --- which I guess is how you got hit by
> it.
I was first hit by it in /var before I was even trying to bisect: I was
just rebooting to unwedge NFS lockd. It's true that in less than a week
probably not all that many people have rebooted often enough to trip
over this.
I hope.
--
NULL && (void)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-23 23:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-22 16:17 Heads-up: 3.6.2 / 3.6.3 NFS server panic: 3.6.2+ regression? Nix
2012-10-23 1:33 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-10-23 14:07 ` Nix
2012-10-23 14:30 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-10-23 16:32 ` Heads-up: 3.6.2 / 3.6.3 NFS server oops: 3.6.2+ regression? (also an unrelated ext4 data loss bug) Nix
2012-10-23 16:46 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-10-23 16:54 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-10-23 16:56 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-10-23 17:05 ` Nix
2012-10-23 17:36 ` Nix
2012-10-23 17:43 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-10-23 17:44 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-10-23 17:57 ` Myklebust, Trond
[not found] ` <1351015039.4622.23.camel@lade.trondhjem.org>
2012-10-23 18:23 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-10-23 19:49 ` Nix
2012-10-24 10:18 ` [PATCH] lockd: fix races in per-net NSM client handling Stanislav Kinsbursky
2012-10-23 20:57 ` Apparent serious progressive ext4 data corruption bug in 3.6.3 (and other stable branches?) Nix
2012-10-23 22:19 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-23 22:47 ` Nix
2012-10-23 23:16 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-23 23:06 ` Nix
2012-10-23 23:28 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-23 23:34 ` Nix [this message]
2012-10-24 0:57 ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-24 20:17 ` Jan Kara
2012-10-26 15:25 ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-24 19:13 ` Jannis Achstetter
2012-10-24 21:31 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-24 22:05 ` Jannis Achstetter
2012-10-24 23:47 ` Nix
2012-10-25 17:02 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-10-24 21:04 ` Jannis Achstetter
2012-10-24 1:13 ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-24 4:15 ` Nix
2012-10-24 4:27 ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-24 5:23 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-24 7:00 ` Hugh Dickins
2012-10-24 11:46 ` Nix
2012-10-24 11:45 ` Nix
2012-10-24 17:22 ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-24 19:49 ` Nix
2012-10-24 19:54 ` Nix
2012-10-24 20:30 ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-24 20:34 ` Nix
2012-10-24 20:45 ` Nix
2012-10-24 21:08 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-24 23:27 ` Apparent serious progressive ext4 data corruption bug in 3.6 (when rebooting during umount) Nix
2012-10-24 23:42 ` Nix
2012-10-25 1:10 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-25 1:45 ` Nix
2012-10-25 14:12 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-25 14:15 ` Nix
2012-10-25 17:39 ` Nix
2012-10-25 11:06 ` Nix
2012-10-26 0:22 ` Apparent serious progressive ext4 data corruption bug in 3.6 (when rebooting during umount) (possibly blockdev / arcmsr at fault??) Nix
2012-10-26 0:11 ` Apparent serious progressive ext4 data corruption bug in 3.6.3 (and other stable branches?) Ric Wheeler
2012-10-26 0:43 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-26 12:12 ` Nix
2012-10-26 20:35 ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-26 20:37 ` Nix
2012-10-26 20:56 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-26 20:59 ` Nix
2012-10-26 21:15 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-26 21:19 ` Nix
2012-10-27 0:22 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-27 12:45 ` Nix
2012-10-27 17:55 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-27 18:47 ` Nix
2012-10-27 21:19 ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-27 22:42 ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-29 1:00 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-29 1:04 ` Nix
2012-10-29 2:24 ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-29 2:34 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-29 2:35 ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-29 2:42 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-27 18:30 ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-27 3:11 ` Jim Rees
2012-10-28 4:23 ` [PATCH] ext4: fix unjournaled inode bitmap modification Eric Sandeen
2012-10-28 13:59 ` Nix
2012-10-29 2:30 ` [PATCH -v3] " Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-29 3:24 ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-29 17:08 ` Darrick J. Wong
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2012-10-24 17:38 ` Apparent serious progressive ext4 data corruption bug in 3.6.3 (and other stable branches?) Martin
2012-10-26 20:13 ` Martin
2012-10-26 20:24 ` Nix
2012-10-26 20:44 ` Martin
2012-10-26 20:47 ` Nix
2012-10-26 21:10 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-26 23:15 ` Martin
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