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From: Sergey Organov <sorganov@gmail.com>
To: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
Cc: richardcochran@gmail.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Fugang Duan <fugang.duan@nxp.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	andrew@lunn.ch
Subject: Re: [PATCH  1/5] net: fec: properly support external PTP PHY for hardware time stamping
Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 21:33:30 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zh8cqyrp.fsf@osv.gnss.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200706154728.lfywhchrtaeeda4g@skbuf> (Vladimir Oltean's message of "Mon, 6 Jul 2020 18:47:28 +0300")

Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com> writes:

> On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 06:21:59PM +0300, Sergey Organov wrote:
>> Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com> writes:
 
>> > Hi Sergey,
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 05:26:12PM +0300, Sergey Organov wrote:
>> >> When external PTP-aware PHY is in use, it's that PHY that is to time
>> >> stamp network packets, and it's that PHY where configuration requests
>> >> of time stamping features are to be routed.
>> >> 
>> >> To achieve these goals:
>> >> 
>> >> 1. Make sure we don't time stamp packets when external PTP PHY is in use
>> >> 
>> >> 2. Make sure we redirect ioctl() related to time stamping of Ethernet
>> >>    packets to connected PTP PHY rather than handle them ourselves
>> 
>> [...]
>> 
>> >> diff --git a/drivers/net/ethernet/freescale/fec_main.c b/drivers/net/ethernet/freescale/fec_main.c
>> >> index 2d0d313..995ea2e 100644
>> >> --- a/drivers/net/ethernet/freescale/fec_main.c
>> >> +++ b/drivers/net/ethernet/freescale/fec_main.c
>> >> @@ -1298,7 +1298,11 @@ fec_enet_tx_queue(struct net_device *ndev, u16 queue_id)
>> >>  			ndev->stats.tx_bytes += skb->len;
>> >>  		}
>> >>  
>> >> +		/* It could be external PHY that had set SKBTX_IN_PROGRESS, so
>> >> +		 * we still need to check it's we who are to time stamp
>> >> +		 */
>> >>  		if (unlikely(skb_shinfo(skb)->tx_flags & SKBTX_IN_PROGRESS) &&
>> >> +		    unlikely(fep->hwts_tx_en) &&
>> >
>> > I think this could qualify as a pretty significant fix in its own right,
>> > that should go to stable trees. Right now, this patch appears pretty
>> > easy to overlook.
>> >
>> > Is this the same situation as what is being described here for the
>> > gianfar driver?
>> >
>> > https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/netdev/patch/20191227004435.21692-2-olteanv@gmail.com/
>> 
>> Yes, it sounds exactly like that!
>> 
>
> Cool. Join the club! You were lucky though, in your case it was pretty
> evident where the problem might be, so you were already on your way even
> though you didn't know exactly what was going on.
>
> Towards the point that you brought up in that thread:
>
>> Could somebody please help me implement (or point me to) proper fix to
>> reliably use external PHY to timestamp network packets?
>
> We do it like this:
> - DSA: If there is a timestamping switch stacked on top of a
>   timestamping Ethernet MAC, the switch hijacks the .ndo_do_ioctl of the
>   host port, and you are supposed to use the PTP clock of the switch,
>   through the .ndo_do_ioctl of its own (virtual) net devices. This
>   approach works without changing any code in each individual Ethernet
>   MAC driver.
> - PHY: The Ethernet MAC driver needs to be kind enough to check whether
>   the PHY supports hw timestamping, and pass this ioctl to that PHY
>   while making sure it doesn't do anything stupid in the meanwhile, like
>   also acting upon that timestamping request itself.
>
> Both are finicky in their own ways. There is no real way for the user to
> select which PHC they want to use. The assumption is that you'd always
> want to use the outermost one, and that things in the kernel side always
> collaborate towards that end.

Makes sense, -- thanks for clarification! Indeed, if somebody connected
that external thingy, chances are high it was made for a purpose.

>
>> However, I'd insist that the second part of the patch is as important.
>> Please refer to my original post for the description of nasty confusion
>> the second part of the patch fixes:
>> 
>> https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/87r1uqtybr.fsf@osv.gnss.ru/
>> 
>> Basically, you get PHY response when you ask for capabilities, but then
>> MAC executes ioctl() request for corresponding configuration!
>> 
>> [...]
>> 
>
> Yup, sure, _but_ my point is: PHY timestamping is not supposed to work
> unless you do that phy_has_hwtstamp dance in .ndo_do_ioctl and pass it
> to the PHY driver. Whereas, timestamping on a DSA switch is supposed to
> just work. So, the double-TX-timestamp fix is common for both DSA and
> PHY timestamping, and it should be a separate patch that goes to David's
> "net" tree and has an according Fixes: tag for the stable people to pick
> it up. Then, the PHY timestamping patch is technically a new feature,
> because the driver wasn't looking at the PHY's ability to perform PTP
> timestamping, and now it does. So that part is a patch for "net-next".

Ah, thanks, now it makes sense! I simply was not aware of the DSA
(whatever it is) you've mentioned above.

I'll then make these 2 changes separate in v2 indeed, though I'm not
aware about Fixes: tag and if I should do something about it. Any clues?

Thanks,
-- Sergey


  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-06 18:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-06 14:26 [PATCH 0/5] net: fec: fix external PTP PHY support Sergey Organov
2020-07-06 14:26 ` [PATCH 1/5] net: fec: properly support external PTP PHY for hardware time stamping Sergey Organov
2020-07-06 15:08   ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-07-06 15:21     ` Sergey Organov
2020-07-06 15:47       ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-07-06 18:33         ` Sergey Organov [this message]
2020-07-07  7:04           ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-07-07 15:29             ` Sergey Organov
2020-07-08 11:00             ` Richard Cochran
2020-07-08 10:55           ` Richard Cochran
2020-07-06 14:26 ` [PATCH 2/5] net: fec: enable to use PPS feature without " Sergey Organov
2020-07-07  4:05   ` [EXT] " Andy Duan
2020-07-07 14:29     ` Sergey Organov
2020-07-06 14:26 ` [PATCH 3/5] net: fec: initialize clock with 0 rather than current kernel time Sergey Organov
2020-07-06 15:27   ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-07-06 18:24     ` Sergey Organov
2020-07-07  6:36       ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-07-07 16:07         ` Sergey Organov
2020-07-07 16:43           ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-07-07 17:09             ` Sergey Organov
2020-07-07 17:12               ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-07-07 17:56                 ` Sergey Organov
2020-07-08 11:15                   ` Richard Cochran
2020-07-08 12:14                     ` Sergey Organov
2020-07-08 11:11             ` Richard Cochran
2020-07-08 11:04     ` Richard Cochran
2020-07-08 12:24       ` Sergey Organov
2020-07-08 12:37       ` Sergey Organov
2020-07-08 14:48         ` Richard Cochran
2020-07-08 17:18           ` Sergey Organov
2020-07-06 14:26 ` [PATCH 4/5] net: fec: get rid of redundant code in fec_ptp_set() Sergey Organov
2020-07-07  4:08   ` [EXT] " Andy Duan
2020-07-07 14:43     ` Sergey Organov
2020-07-08  5:34       ` Andy Duan
2020-07-08  8:48         ` Sergey Organov
2020-07-08  8:57           ` Andy Duan
2020-07-08 12:26             ` Sergey Organov
2020-07-06 14:26 ` [PATCH 5/5] net: fec: replace snprintf() with strlcpy() in fec_ptp_init() Sergey Organov
2020-07-11 12:08 ` [PATCH v2 net] net: fec: fix hardware time stamping by external devices Sergey Organov
2020-07-11 23:19   ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-07-12 14:16     ` Sergey Organov
2020-07-12 14:47       ` Andrew Lunn
2020-07-12 15:01       ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-07-12 17:29         ` Sergey Organov
2020-07-12 19:33           ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-07-12 22:32             ` Sergey Organov
2020-07-12 23:15               ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-07-14 12:39                 ` Sergey Organov
2020-07-14 14:23                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-07-14 14:35                     ` Sergey Organov
2020-07-14 14:44                     ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-07-14 16:18                       ` Sergey Organov
2020-07-14 14:01   ` Richard Cochran
2020-07-14 14:27     ` Sergey Organov
2020-07-14 16:28 ` [PATCH v3 " Sergey Organov
2020-07-16 18:24   ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-07-16 20:38     ` Sergey Organov
2020-07-16 21:06       ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-07-16 21:18         ` Sergey Organov
2020-07-15 15:42 ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/4] net: fec: a few improvements Sergey Organov
2020-07-15 15:42   ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/4] net: fec: enable to use PPS feature without time stamping Sergey Organov
2020-07-15 15:42   ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/4] net: fec: initialize clock with 0 rather than current kernel time Sergey Organov
2020-07-15 15:42   ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/4] net: fec: get rid of redundant code in fec_ptp_set() Sergey Organov
2020-07-15 15:43   ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/4] net: fec: replace snprintf() with strlcpy() in fec_ptp_init() Sergey Organov
2020-07-16  3:00   ` [EXT] [PATCH net-next v2 0/4] net: fec: a few improvements Andy Duan
2020-07-16 18:37     ` Jakub Kicinski

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