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From: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/8] memcg: Enable fine-grained control of over memory.high action
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:14:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <89179081-697d-232d-a936-697e3c662f65@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALvZod5V3N3K9-tDoaq=JgkeuAK=0TkRf97Vua0khXL+Lxw+Pg@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/17/20 12:44 PM, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 7:11 AM Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Memory controller can be used to control and limit the amount of
>> physical memory used by a task. When a limit is set in "memory.high"
>> in a non-root memory cgroup, the memory controller will try to reclaim
>> memory if the limit has been exceeded. Normally, that will be enough
>> to keep the physical memory consumption of tasks in the memory cgroup
>> to be around or below the "memory.high" limit.
>>
>> Sometimes, memory reclaim may not be able to recover memory in a rate
>> that can catch up to the physical memory allocation rate especially
>> when rotating disks are used for swapping or writing dirty pages. In
>> this case, the physical memory consumption will keep on increasing.
> Isn't this the real underlying issue? Why not make the guarantees of
> memory.high more strict instead of adding more interfaces and
> complexity?
>
> By the way, have you observed this issue on real workloads or some
> test cases? It would be good to get a repro with simple test cases.
>
As said before, this is from a customer request. I will need to 
re-examine the existing features to see if they can satisfy the customer 
need.

Cheers,
Longman


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-08-18 19:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-17 14:08 [RFC PATCH 0/8] memcg: Enable fine-grained per process memory control Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 1/8] memcg: Enable fine-grained control of over memory.high action Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:30   ` Chris Down
2020-08-17 15:38     ` Waiman Long
2020-08-17 16:11       ` Chris Down
2020-08-17 16:44   ` Shakeel Butt
2020-08-17 16:56     ` Chris Down
2020-08-18 19:12       ` Waiman Long
2020-08-18 19:14     ` Waiman Long [this message]
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 2/8] memcg, mm: Return ENOMEM or delay if memcg_over_limit Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 3/8] memcg: Allow the use of task RSS memory as over-high action trigger Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 4/8] fs/proc: Support a new procfs memctl file Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 5/8] memcg: Allow direct per-task memory limit checking Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 6/8] memcg: Introduce additional memory control slowdown if needed Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 7/8] memcg: Enable logging of memory control mitigation action Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 8/8] memcg: Add over-high action prctl() documentation Waiman Long
2020-08-17 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] memcg: Enable fine-grained per process memory control Michal Hocko
2020-08-17 15:55   ` Waiman Long
2020-08-17 19:26     ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-18 19:20       ` Waiman Long
2020-08-18  9:14 ` peterz
2020-08-18  9:26   ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-18  9:59     ` peterz
2020-08-18 10:05       ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-18 10:18         ` peterz
2020-08-18 10:30           ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-18 10:36             ` peterz
2020-08-18 13:49           ` Johannes Weiner
2020-08-21 19:37             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-08-24 16:58               ` Johannes Weiner
2020-09-07 11:47                 ` Chris Down
2020-09-09 11:53                 ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-18 10:17       ` Chris Down
2020-08-18 10:26         ` peterz
2020-08-18 10:35           ` Chris Down
2020-08-23  2:49         ` Waiman Long
2020-08-18  9:27   ` Chris Down
2020-08-18 10:04     ` peterz
2020-08-18 12:55       ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-20  6:11         ` Dave Chinner
2020-08-18 19:30     ` Waiman Long
2020-08-18 19:27   ` Waiman Long

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